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VGPolyglot said

I'm not a part of Anti-fa, but I'm pretty sure they oppose Richard Spencer, who is a white supremacist that supports black genocide:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2s9KqZUoAAwtXU.jpg

Also, you're talking about people being numb to communists being killed, which would gloss over that it already exists: the American military is bombing and killing thousands of people, yet the public are generally apathetic towards it.

They oppose Richard Spencer, yes, but Richard Spencer is not the guy speaking at these events where hundreds to thousands of antifa come and shut down. One guy punched Richard Spencer as he was interviewed, that is it. And honestly if we are going to cite Richard Spencer in order to make the case there is a realizable and flourishing fascist movement in the U.S then we are bending backwards looking for it. Richard Spencer is as niche as it gets, and if he does have beliefs in genocide he knows well to hide them when interviewed. Not to mention that the American polirical system allows for a lot of subsidarity and separation of powers. Something Trump discovered quite quickly. There is no legitimate threat of fascism in the United States, and the people antifa are protesting were not calling for violence, unlike antifa. 

 

 

The U.S military is bombing and killing people abroad. If people are getting attacked domestically, Americans care much more. If it can be shown that these people deserve it somehow (say they belong to a gang) the Americans grow callous. If antifa uses violence, and the hard right respond in kind, Americans are going to think that both groups deserve it. Right now Americans think all people should have absolute free-speech, including communists and fascists. But if we limit one extreme ideology or allow for its limitation, why not the other to be fair? Which was Chomsky's point on tactics.