palou said:
Qwark said:
Just explain one thing to me if the Netherlands is such a terrible place. Why isn't every Turk leaving. Unlike that corrupt shit hole we actually don't keep people against their will. We very much like brown people as long as they like Mr Aboutaleb adapt and respect the Dutch values. Something which clearly didn't work out with the Turks all that well.
I hope Turkey does send Syrians to Europe since they are now living in the equivalent of hell. The EU can manage a few more million Syrians. We would be happy to trade them with Turks. Everybody wins because Holland is the ewuivalent of jell for Turks. Erdogan is in my eyes a murderer, didn't he want the death penalty back anyway.
I am perfectly fine by NL cutting all ties with Turkey and now that everyone wants it. Let's get on with it, Turkey can keep their 6 billion send another few million Syrians trough. Most of them are pretty well educated anyway. Perhaps in 2030 when Erdogan isn't Turkey is leader anymore perhaps we should renegotiate with Turkey.
We are Dutch we trade stuff and that's where it ends for us. Historically spealing we dont care what we trade or with whom. The Nertherlands also don't want to influence every country on the planet like the US, Turkey, Russia and other countries want. Considering Turkey made its long therm goals very clear, gain control over parts of Europe. It is in my eyes no longer a viable relationship between NL and Turkey is to be had. Funny enough Germany and NL where very invested in Turkey. But Tutkey doesn't want our money anyways. So to Turkey I would say good luck finding new friends perhaps Putin is intrested. I only putty the Turks entrepreneurs that once had a wealthy and nice going tourist economy. But since more than 50% of the Tourists came from Europe even excluding Russia in its prime day I guess those will sadly suffer badly.
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Can you please just stop being dicks to each other?
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I fully support this sentiment. The nature of this arguement on both sides cannot lead to anything good.
