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Mr Puggsly said:
I made the point before that Scorpio is achieving 4K with room to spare for graphics. So saying its resolution and performance is innaccurate, some games have graphical improvments. |
The "room for more graphics" is because Forza was running at Xbox One levels of visuals to begin with.
Which begs the question, would it only have Playstation 4 visuals at 4k?
| Intrinsic said: Not every chip that comes off the line would be ableto run at the upper limit of theiir frequency band. But sony would have paid for them anyway. Which means their will be a lot of dropped chips. Which results in the per unit cost of each chip going up. Another reason why the scorpio will be more expensive, though possibly one allevated by waiting a year and alowing 16nm fabrication to become more reliable. |
Except. That Scorpio's chip only has 40% more transistors than the Xbox One.
I would not be surprised if Scorpio's chip was roughly the same as the Xbox One's chip in terms of fabrication costs when that first launched.
The 12GB of GDDR5 and the PCB with a ton of layers for traces thanks to the 384bit memory bus however...
Besides, if you have a large proportion of chips that are unable to hit a certain clock rate, then you throw more voltage at the problem, the result is more heat of course, but you get more usable chips out of a wafer.
| Normchacho said: But yeah, it's going to be way more powerful than the Scorpio for quite a few reasons. Not least of which because it's going to be using Vega and Ryzen if not their replacements. Then include the fact that it will use faster RAM and more of it, and will still use a 10tf+ GPU and much stronger CPU |
If the Playstation 5 uses Vega and Ryzen. Then that console will be old, slow and outdated before it even launches.
| aLkaLiNE said: - AMD Jaguar CPU (this was actually a bad surprise. Jaguar is hot garbage according to the PC elite and almost everyone expected something better) |
Jaguar is garbage. Everyone with an educated opinion worth a pinch of salt knew it was going to be Jaguar or a derivative... Of course we wanted more, but that was unrealistic.
| Barkley said: Yes it is, but not by enough to make adding 4gb of ram, a larger processor, state-of-the-art cooling, a faster hdd and a UHD Bluray Drive the same price. |
Why not?
Stacked ram is gaining traction allowing for faster speeds, larger densities.
There are processors that are just as cost effective as Jaguar but offer superior performance...
Cooling doesn't stop at Vapour Chamber...
Faster Mechanical drives are dime a dozen and UHD Blu-Ray drives can be just as cheap as regular drives. In-fact, many regular Blu-Ray drives just need a firmware update to enable it.
3 years is a long time in the PC space. Vega and Ryzen will be old and outdated by that point.
| Miguel_Zorro said: It better support 11k resolution graphics or I'm not interested. |
8K is next. 8K displays are starting to gain traction.
There is even movement for 16k displays.
5k is already on the market.
You also have the option of Eyefinity/Surround Vision.
| fatslob-:O said: That depends on how transistor technology advances will play out ... Which is why some people are probably wrong for insinuating we'll have a shorter gen when the underlying bottlenecks don't allow for that ... |
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