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fatslob-:O said:
Nem said:

Talk about a spin. Of course science is about evidence. Peer review is the double checking of the evidence/experiment.

And depends. Carson may know alot about medecine, but not necessarely about physics or biology as he still buys into the god stuff. Well... assuming he is beeing honest that is. Also, this is assuming he didn't go to any crazy catholic university, wich i'm guessing is the case. 

If any of those people tell you evolution isn't a fact, sorry, but they are outright dumb and Bernie knows more than them. Tbh, i'm assuming Bernie is an intelligent person, beeing as he is american, if he buys into religious stuff, then he is dumb aswell. I don't know him that well.

 

I don't know what the heck you mean as science representitives. Science doesn't have priests or whatever. It's not a religion. Democrats don't represent science. There just seems like theres more educated people in the democratic camp. Might be my impression though, as i have no proof of that. Just the fact that they take envyronmental issues seriously puts them over republicans for sure.

Cool, go volunteer for eugenics experimentation then. Talk is cheap. Go get yourself steralised. 

I'm gonna be completely honest here, what you are saying is not only disgusting and inhumane but makes me worry about your mental health when you are incapable of empathasing with why that is something that shouldn't be done.

There have been multiple studies about race and IQ correlation. That is not nearly on the same level.

The one spinning this was you. Science is NOT a democracy to begin with so it cannot progress with a consensus. Humans cannot be trusted with the objective truth because the universe doesn't make it so when our only goal is to propagate like viruses ... 

Bernie knows nothing about science as he has no formal education or training in that field, there's a reason why he has a degree in political science in the first place. He couldn't hack it in either the life sciences or the physical sciences so that's why he picked pseudoscience. Just because Ben Carson subscribes to a religion doesn't mean he's any less knowledgeable. (That's like saying a biologist with a PhD in their own field doesn't know any better since they practice Christianity.) 

Not only do you deface Carson because of his beliefs but then you have some audacity to go on to assume that he went to a religious quack post-secondary when he studied at Yale and the University of Michigan ?! WTF ?! Yeap, Yale and UoM are definitely crazy catholic universities ... /sarcasm 

Bernie doesn't even care about the debate between creationism or evolution enough to speak about it ... 

You're right, democrats don't represent science. They just promote it for their own convenience more than they should ... (BTW issues =/= science, just because you care less about a particular issue doesn't make you any less scientific.) 

LOL, asking other people to get sterilized ... 

Don't worry about me, worry about yourself since you now have cognitive dissonance. It's not my fault that your offended about the truth when you keep telling yourself the lie that science must be held accountable to ethical standards ... (Science doesn't give a shit about where and how you collected your data in the first place.)

That isnt what i said at all. Science is about evidence. If theres evidence and theres great support of the results of the theory, experiment and evidence, that is the consensus. Not literally everyone. Consensus in science just means it's widely accepted as the truth after peer review because it's uncontested. The reason it's uncontested is because theres no good alternative.

So, empathy is cognitive dissonance. Very well... i'm ok with that dissonance. Theres is ethics in science. Unsafe Human experimentation is unethical. If you don't think so, as i said, feel free to volunteer your life and risk the consequences as i'm sure theres any crazy company out there willing to do that. I'm sure you can understand why that isn't ethical and that is why Eugenics is something that is unethical.