Do You Accept Evolution as a Fact?

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AlfredoTurkey said:

Nem said:

Fair enough. I can understand the line of thought.

So, the thing about the origin of the universe is that it takes place in the sub-atomic level of existance. Our common sense does not apply there. 

Are you familiar with quantum mechanics? It is proven that on a sub atomic level the same particle can exist in 2 places at once. This isn't belief, it is reality. It's demonstrable. Does it make any sense for us, for the same cat to exist in 2 places at once? Of course not! It's impossible! But, in the sub-atomic level, it isn't. So, our common sense and view of the world simply isn't adapted to recognise how the world works at that level and is thus a bias that we must throw out when trying to understand it. 

The sub-atomic world is highly unstable and does not obey common sense. A place where the same thing can exist twice. Is it so far fetched to suppose that in an extreme moment of instability, something incredible may happen?

The problem with religious explanation is they don't explain anything, because even if some magical beeing did it... how did said beeing came into existance? See, religion just displaces the question, it never answers it. So, it becomes an unecessary step in trying to determine the origin of the universe.

I believe, in an ironic twist of fate, that we're all likely living in a simulation. The scientific data is there to make a strong case if you study it. The irony, going back to my opening sentence, lies in the fact that if proven... if science proves that we're all living inside of a concieved simulation, where all things were created by a "coder"... then that will mean science proves there's a "god". 

Imagine that lol.

 

Unless you're aware of something I'm not, then there is no evidence that we are living in a simulation.  I believe what you're refering to is the discovery that information is contained on the surface of a black hole.  What this indicates is that we can actually be living in a 2 dimensional world that we can perceive in three dimensions through the use of different cues.  This doesn't however imply any kind of simulation or coder is involved.

Sciencey web sites are really pushing this as "the whole universe could be a hologram" because it makes for a better headline.  And this leads less sciencey websites to go from hologram to simulation, which are not really the same thing.  And that leads to "we're all in the matrix".  But really, that's a huge and unjustified leap from the findings.  Unless again, you're referring to something else.  

If however, there was this evidence, I don't see why it would be ironic at all.  If there is a god that interacts with the natural world, then that should be something we can observe and test.  If applied properly, the scientific method finds the truth.  If that truth leads to a god, then that's fine.  But, that's not the way the evidence has pointed thus far.