Bloomberg: Nintendo Traders Signal Switch Could Be Bigger Hit Than the Wii

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Miyamotoo said:

GhaudePhaede010 said:

Did you literally say, "solid" and, "terrible" when talking about Wii U's first year? You are going to debate that one with yourself before you engage me. Meanwhile, most of those, "late ports" were like, one week... and people here, in this thread and other threads on these forums, are asking for... get this now... EVEN MORE LATE PORTS!!!!!!!

Basically, this shows how out of touch the gaming community is when it comes to Nintendo finding success. The goalposts are evermoving... just like in your post.

Yes, solid 3rd party launch games, but solid 3rd party games on launch doesnt mean shit in Nintendo case because multiplatforms doesn't sell Nintendo consoles, nobody bought Wii U because of those games because they were already on PS3/Xbox360 and In most cases they were late ports, and offcourse you cant sell Nintendo console on multiplatform ports beacuse strong Nintendo games are selling Nintendo hardware. People asking late ports in order that system have more games outside Nintendo games, so to have more games, more games is always positive thing in any case, but strong Nintendo games are system sellers for Nintendo not multiplatform games.

You are 1st person I saw that said that Wii U's first year "was absolutely excellent", beacuse its well known that it was teriible, weak exslusives, not must have games, and constant drouthg of games (we had 3-4 months without single game), Wii U launch and 1st year lineup actually was one of biggest reason why Wii U failed so hard.

Switch in its 9 months on market will have Zelda BotW, Mario Kart Deluxe, Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey, so we talking about some of biggest Nintendo IPs in just 1st 9 months and must have titles, and only Zelda BotW blows away whole 1st year Wii U lineupe.

I am not making the argument that Switch's first year will not blow Wii U's away. I am saying the goalposts have clearly moved from, "Nintendo finally getting the third-party support it needed to stay relevant" to the Wii U's first year was horrible in a whim. Although, you avoided the point that gamers seem to think third-party multiplats (and late ports) are the deal breaker when in reality, not on a NIntendo console. Are people not wanting RE 7 and most recently Overatch (late ports) on Switch? Yeah, gamers never change.

Maybe I am the only one saying that the lineup was excellent today. But hindsight of a failed system means people get to rewrite the narrative on Nintendo's failure. First it was, "they do not get enough third-party support" in spite of Wii being massively successful and the console getting a shitload of third-party support. When I bring up the third-party parity with Wii U and its subsequent failure, the argument shifts to, "the lineup was horrible because it lacked Nintendo exclusives." I have been fighting this battle for years. However, my personal opinion aside, the number of games released on Wii U and the parity with which they were released cannot be denied. There were many great titles especially in the first year... it was after the first year where you would have a valid argument because third-party support dropped even though first-party, "kinda" kicked in. However, the most likely truth is that even if you think it was not excellent, we can read the list and see it was most definitely was not horrible. The truth is, it probably lies somewhere in between.

Switch's launch lineup will be as polar as our opinion. I think one game does not make for a great launch and other people will say Zelda was so big that it made up for the lack of other titles at launch. In a few years, if Switch is a failure, the narrative will be, "slow launch meant only Nintendo fanboys bought the console early on and then it dropped off a cliff because it did not have third-party parity" or something. If it stays successful, the narrative will likely be, "it started so strong with Zelda and it maintained that momentum with its constant first-party releases." It will most likely sway with the success and/or failure of the console. This has been happening since the dawn of time. The narrative will be altered to fit the path of the console.