Misconception? 4k TVs cost too much?

[SvennoJ]

bonzobanana said:

SvennoJ said:

It's very dependent on what kind of film stock was used and how well it has aged. Besides that, 35mm film was anamorphic or compressed width wise. A 2.35:1 movie compressed to 1.33:1 already results in close to half the detail width wise. In practice I have watched many older 35mm movies on blu-ray that already show the limitations at 1080p. Sure, less compression artifacts and improved color reproduction will make a difference, but it won't be even remotely close to the difference between dvd and blu-ray. Certainly not worth double dipping again imo.

I wouldn't mind watching movies shot on 70mm again on 4K blu-ray, but that can wait.

I stand by my comments that some old movies look great fully restored at 4k but there are grain issues and other factors with some old movies. Yes aspect issues may mean you may get vertical borders but they don't bother me too much.

Ofcourse they look great, the restoration process benefits from using a higher source resolution. It doesn't matter much for the output resolution though (blu-ray or 4k uhd) as the super fine detail isn't there. Baraka was scanned in at 8K from a 70mm source, mastered in 4K, downsampled to blu-ray and it is one of the best most detailed blu-rays out there. For the 4K version it should be mastered in 8K and downsampled to 4K UHD for best result.

4K UHD is still an experimental format in a lot of cases, for example read this review
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/GoodFellas-4K-Blu-ray/161258/
In comparison to the Blu-ray, the UHD reveals a slight (a very slight) increase in visible detail and grain, but the improvement continues to be overshadowed (literally) by improper black levels that cast a haze of overbrightening across the entire frame.
It's a far cry from the dvd to blu-ray transition (which many claimed upscaled DVD already looked just as good...) Diminishing returns are very real for old movies. Mastering in 4K works, the output format doesn't matter much, certainly not enough to justify rebuying with a $10 premium added to the price tag.