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thismeintiel on 07 April 2017
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Soundwave said:
thismeintiel said:

Except graphics AREN'T the only thing these two are bringing.  They are also bringing great games. A lot of people like great games that also look great.  And the reason the PS4 Pro isn't burning up the charts, other than Sony doesn't seem to be supplying chains with more units, is because it isn't meant to.  I mean, maybe when it hits $199-$249, it'll start out selling a $149 PS4 S.  But, until then, it's just meant as a 2x upgrade for people who are interested in that sort of thing.  Most people, though, are happy spending less money and getting a system that plays the same games, just not quite as good.  Once the PS5 is announced, you'll see the excitement for new HW come back to the core market.

As for 4K TVs, those are already being purchased at a very good rate.  We already have ~15% of homes with 4K TVs in the US.  That will only grow as the prices continue to fall and Black Friday deals help push sales.  The same thing happened with 1080p TVs.  And the jump is very noticable when you have good 4K content displaying on it.

Then, 16GB it may very well be.

And, I guess I should have said higher res textures.  Still, my point stands.  We can always push it more.

I'm saying graphics are going to become less of a factor now as time goes on. IMO many studios can't even afford to push the graphics much further so all that extra hardware is going to be for like 3-4 studios that actually have the budget to make 1 or 2 games that cost roughly about the same as a big budget Hollywood movie, and if said game flops, that studio is likely out of business. 

Sony should milk the PS4/PS4 Pro for as long as they can IMO. 

I think even to 2021/22 might be a good idea. Internet fanboys who just need to brag that their system is better and trying to appease them is not a sound business strategy going forward. 

I have a 4KTV, a pretty high end one, when demoing it basically the response I get from my "average friends" is "oh yeah, that's cool I guess, it looks a bit brighter". No one is blown away, people who think 4K is going to drive system adoption in the future as going to be in for a rude awakening IMO. Most regular people are not going to give a fuck, it's like the difference from going from CD to Super Audio CD and DVD Audio, the general public didn't give a shit because CD sounded good enough, in fact the market went in the totally opposite direction embracing MP3 digital audio.

It really just depends on how easy the console is to develop for and how competent the devs are.  The PS4 is probably much cheaper to develop for than something like the PS3.  And some of the AA games coming out, now, look on par with some of the AAA games of last gen.  I doubt they are spending that much more on development, since they know their games aren't going to sell gangbusters.

Improved visuals have always been a big draw to upgrading your console.  Ever since the beginning.  Hell, some people didn't think the PS4 was that big a leap over the PS3 and figured it wouldn't sell that great.  Look at where we are, now.  It's outpacing the PS2, currently, and is well on its way to doing 100M+.  I'm sure something similar will happen with the PS5.  People thinking the difference isn't that great, and PS4 is good enough, but it will still sell well.  Your example more accurately describes the HH market and mobile gaming.  People already had phones on them.  They play games, though not many are great, but they don't care.  It's good enough.