| SvennoJ said: The same cpu running 9.5% faster than the ps4 pro... Weren't there rumors of 4x L2 cache etc? It will run multiplat games better than ps4 pro, about the same difference as xbox one and ps4. Both aren't needed. Show me what it can do for VR, then I might get interested. |
The rumors about 4x L2 cache was actually correct. But it ended up being for the GPU, not the CPU. (Which I originally stipulated when those rumors first began, but had hopes it would be for the CPU.)
The clock rate doesn't tell us the whole story, Scorpio has a big CPU advantage over the Playstation 4 Pro.
The CPU is still garbage, but it's going to be doing allot less work, which means overall, more cycles to developers.
| FunFan said: Getting a Jaguar instead of Rysen is worse than getting an X1 instead of an X2. |
Ryzen was never going to happen.
People built unrealistic expectations and ignored what the tech expert opinions were... And of course got let down.
| Lafiel said: it's very likely also an "evolved" polaris, as it was said that PS4 Pro has features beyond what's in standard polaris aswell |
There is still the potential for it to be Vega as well. The memory bus and memory controller is obviously a significant deviation from Polaris, plus there are more CU's than a fully enabled Polaris and other customizations.
| EricHiggin said: Its also a slight letdown, based specifically on the hype and rumors though, not what was actually shown. The 245w PSU is the most impressive to me. Pro is 310w. WOW. |
The PSU could be more efficient than Sonys. So they might have been able to get away with a lower wattage unit.
| EricHiggin said: The biggest question I have right now is how large is the overall shell of this thing? Is that outline around the internals supposed to indicate the shell size of the XB1 or the XB1S maybe? |
Before the Scorpio details released there was a leak that the console was going to use a "Groundbreaking and new" cooling design. (Which is blatantly false...)
And I stated it's likely using a vapour chamber approach, which I ended up being right about.
Vapour Chambers are amazing at getting a large amount of thermal energy dissipated in a small and confined space, which is why GPU's use it... Microsoft has likely taken that advantage and applied it to the consoles overall form factor.
The original Xbox One had an oversized, over-engineered cooling solution which resulted in a console with a significant amount of height, Vapour Chamber cooling side steps that.
| JRPGfan said: Also the cooling system, seems like its well thought out (much better than the way the Xbox One was). |
To be fair, the Xbox One's cooling system was cheaper to manufacture. And extremely quiet.
| JRPGfan said: This one does 4k checkerboarding..... this one does native 4k... hmmm.
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Both do 4k Checkerboarding.
| Panama said: Might want to manage expectations considering a gtx 1080 struggles with 4k gaming. |
This. Plus we have only seen Forza running at Xbox One levels of imagry running at 4k. We need to see more games to get an appropriate idea of the consoles abilities.
| thismeintiel said: I'm going to say no. I'm sure Xbox fans will be happy, but for the mainstream, I doubt the advantage it has over the Pro is going to warrant the $100-$150 price difference. Hell, if MS actually prices this at $499, like many expect, and Sony still decide to go super aggressive and drop the Pro to $299, that's a $200 difference. |
If Price is your argument. Please keep in mind that the Xbox One S is going to still be on the market which will be the more low-budget Xbox One console.
Microsoft has stated they fully expect the regular Xbox One to have better sales than Scorpio. And with how the Pro has sold against the regular Playstation 4, that's also a realistic expectation.
With that, Scorpio is a Halo product, it doesn't need to sell up-teenth millions of hardware units to be successfull, it just needs to bring attention to the Xbox Platform as a whole.
| thismeintiel said: That's not even mentioning the beastly PS5 we'll start hearing about sometime next year. |
That's provided this console generation doesn't end up extended. The technology isn't going to exist for a few more years yet for a true next-gen to kick off anyway.
Plus Sony is less inclined to start a new console generation when they are selling at such an impressive rate.
| JWeinCom said: I have a 720p TV and rarely watch movies. Not in this thing's market. Without a 4K TV it seems pointless. |
Then you would be wrong. You don't need a 4k TV to benefit from games being rendered at 4k.
Just remember, games are not Photo-realistic even at 720P.
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