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I agree guys, I love big amazing worlds, look at my response in the fanboy thread, i love games that have immersive worlds, specifically like Shenmue(I would pay 200 bucks for a third installment) as yourbrought up jman8. (btw I love Last Samurai) To be honest when I think of games that excite me for the future it's games like Mass Effect, Alan Wake, Thesis, Heavenly Sword, to name a few. Those titles cling to me emotionally, there a world that I want to live in. But there is the other end of the spectrum too, and that is fun. I don't think Nintendo has the power to change every game in the entire industry, but it wouldn't hurt for there to be a segment of gaming that was concerned about games being fun. i'm not as excited about Super Smash bros. but I know I'll be there playing it day and night when it comes out. I loved Warioware and Wii sports. So I really can't bash Nintendo's choices. And since they have made deeper experiences like Zelda at least I can say they have some franchises attempting this, of course not nearly as much as I'd like to see. Why can't the Zelda team make another game? Has anyone watched the anime Kenshin? i would have loved a Zelda likegame based on the samurai world that had depth and challenges. I'd love to see them mix it up a bit. It's funny but for a company that doesn't care about their stories too much, they sure are afraid to change the plot up a bit. Metroid I think is another good attempt at an immersive world. though, I really think Nintendo needs to partner with someone, they are a brilliant gaming company, they just know how to create controls and gameplay, but I do agree on the story aspects they are weaker even by their own admission. As a side argument though I've yet to really play a game with a brilliant story, nothing out there even comes close to Godfather like status, not even a Matrix like story, I guess video game graphics are far cry from real actors. But I hope we're getting there.