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fatslob-:O said:
Nem said:

Ermm... science IS about consensus. Consensus is gathered by the evidence.

I am not familiar with the claims you are making. Are you considering the scientific community to be limited to one country in order to have political interests? It doesn't sound very logical.

I have no idea what you are on about.

Science has no will or beliefs. What you are saying is ludicrous. Science looks at the evidence or demonstrates it to explains reality. It is not contingent on the agenda of religions. If religions are affected it's because they made laughable claims based on ignorance. Can't exactly blame Science for the mistakes religion does.

You're wrong, science isn't about consensus and people get this unbelievably wrong so many times it's frustrating ...

Is a consensus supposed to be right when most scholars in Galileo's time belived that the sun revolved around the earth ? 

Another trick question for you is if Newton's Laws surrounding motion is more correct than Einstein's theory of special relativity according to consensus at the time Einstein pusblished his paper ? 

And I am not saying that the scientific community is stuck in one country. It's that they are stuck in an echochamber where progressives limit academic freedom when it comes to the studies of the human genome ...

At least religion doesn't claim to be academically honest when large parts of the scientific community shames the shit upon those who studies between human genetic lines ... 

Really? The reason why galileo and others were persecuted was religion.

True consensus is possible when there is freedom to exercise it. Of course if theres a group of fanatics at your doorstep ready to kill you, you will say whatever doesn't get you killed.

Science is not an echo chamber. Every theory can be questioned aslong as theres evidence of the claim. I assure that if you come up with proof, not circunstancial proof, not just bits when theres tons for a rival hypothesis, it will be taken into account. That is how science works.

But, i'm still confused about your claims. You think religion is more honest than science? You think that organizations that killed millions and persecuted millions more is the epitome of honesty? You think the bible was never pandered with for 2 thousand years? These conspiracy theories are mind boggling. The thing about science is that it's not falsefiable. It's demonstrable.