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Imaginedvl said:
LivingMetal said:

As over half the contributors of this thread have said in layman's terms, "Microsoft fucked up" as part fof the reason why Sony has done so well this gen  So it's not just me, and at least I've backed myself up with FACTS.  Just because my opinions and assessment are back by facts that don't favor Microsoft (and that's NATURALLY so since it is what it is), doesn't mean there's an agenda.  Or ir could mean that your agenda is to downplay both Sony's success and Microsoft's failures in this current gen of consoles.

lol the bold and upper cases makes your points so factuals :) You did not back anything up with any facts just assumptions and assesments of your own (and yes, probably the same for the majority of Sony enthusiasts). As a Xbox One owner I disagree with everything you say about the values of the Xbox One etc.. And obviously this is normal...

My "agenda" is to say what I said 10 times already. Sony did the right choice with their pricing point, Microsoft did not. Simple as that, now go on with all your extrapolations if it makes you feel good.
Your agenda is to bitch Microsoft at any opportunity you have while responding to me...

You mean the ones I just mentioned which you chosse to ignore and deny:

"At least my reasoning were based from facts and history (EVERY Xbox One unit bundled with Kinect at launch - no other option, Microsoft claiming Kinect was "essential" - lies, Kinect unbundled and overcharged - cost more to the consumer when buying both a standalone Kinect and standalone Xbox One, multiplatform games running better on the PS4 over the Xbox One - better value on PS4 for game performance, etc.)"

^^^^^^FACTS