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Imaginedvl said:
LivingMetal said:

I first expounded on why the price difference was an issue before the mentioning of any mathematical difference.  And you and anyone else has the right to disagree, but you kept skirting my question.  Either you just didn't know or answering it would not have put Microsoft is such a favorable light.  At least my reasoning were based from facts and history (EVERY Xbox One unit bundled with Kinect at launch - no other option, Microsoft claiming Kinect was "essential" - lies, Kinect unbundled and overcharged - cost more to the consumer when buying both a standalone Kinect and standalone Xbox One, multiplatform games running better on the PS4 over the Xbox One - better value on PS4 for game performance, etc.)

Yet again you just do it again. You are talking about puting Microsoft in bad or good light when this is not about it. You have this agenda, I do not. And you are right about one thing, I'm not interrested into having this disucssion. I responded to this thread to talk about why, in my oppinion, Sony got the best start this generation not to start a rent or arguing about how you believe Microsoft methods and marketing are lies, bulshitt and how much your Play Station Four is a better value for you and blah blah.

My anwser was super simple and you can argue with me that consumers did not only care about the price but also about something else in Sony's offering (and it would be on topic) ... But no, instead you are arguing with me and try to tell me how much you think Microsoft is lying, bullshiting, offering lower values, all of this subjective things this thread is NOT about.

As over half the contributors of this thread have said in layman's terms, "Microsoft fucked up" as part fof the reason why Sony has done so well this gen  So it's not just me, and at least I've backed myself up with FACTS.  Just because my opinions and assessment are back by facts that don't favor Microsoft (and that's NATURALLY so since it is what it is), doesn't mean there's an agenda.  Or ir could mean that your agenda is to downplay both Sony's success and Microsoft's failures in this current gen of consoles.