What will sell better, Splatoon 2 or Mario Odyssey?

[Wyrdness]

JWeinCom said:

Wyrdness said:

I'm using the definition of casual that's been around since the NES, new gamers aren't casual gamers as they've only entered into the market, kids can also be casual gamers as well if they've been gaming long enough so I don't get how that definition excludes them.

You can make the thread all you want to see whether people view 3D Mario or Splatoon as more casual friendly I never said you couldn't I just don't see the worth in a bet on it as it can go either way.

This is the first time I've heard anyone using a definition of casual gamers that specifically excluded new gamers.  

How long have you been gaming or at least following gaming in an avid manner? It's been the definition since the NES, it's only when the Wii arrived that some people lumped all new gamers into the same group as casuals because the Wii was the first home platform which along with the DS were the first to focus on catering to casuals as evenly as avid players, the software however also attracted a lot of new gamers so many lumped them together as one group. Casual was always just about someone's gaming habits once gaming developed into a consistent hobby for the person.

Casual players make up the bulk of consumers.