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S.T.A.G.E. said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Actually yes, Insomniac is a 2nd party partner this gen. They partnered together for a game Microsoft funded and published, called Sunset Overdrive. It's a great game, thus they have been a great partner for MS this gen. But do feel free to reply a third time reminding us that Sony could have had the game first if they didn't demand the IP, or that Insomniac still makes games for Sony. Again, none of that changes anything I said. Is it possible for you to reply on this matter with something that doesn't come off as PR for Sony? Who cares about Ratchet or SpiderMan, lol.

I'll give you an example of a second party. Second party is a dedicated independent developer that runs outside of a first party brand but it's published and works on ips exclusively for said company by contract . For Microsoft this is Remedy studios. Insomniac has made exclusives for Sony since the ps2 era and they still are. In the case of a contract to be made with microsoft to be considered second party Microsoft would have to own the ip. The work was done through third party publishing. Sony has plenty of games so really they could afford to lose it. Sony builds high profile ips every gen. That and just how they do business with gaming. You win some and you lose some. Another example of third party publishing was when Microsoft published mass effect to come to console exclusively alongside PC. Who care about ratchet and Spider-Man? Those are called examples of insomniacs loyalty to Sony as a second party developer. Again... this is the same relationship Microsoft has with Remedy and they own the ip to remedys last game. mistwalker has worked second party for Nintendo and ms. This is how it works. Gears of war was a third party exclusive until Microsoft purchased the ip. Now all the games are first party.

I read the first sentence of that and ignored the rest. A developer who makes a game funded by a platform holder is a 2nd party developer. Insomniac has been both a 2nd and 3rd party developer for MS and Sony this gen :)