Europe- economy, immigrants, and a potential inspiration

[barneystinson69]

palou said:

barneystinson69 said:

1. Right, and when those areas start refusing to integrate, and the area starts becoming seperated from the whole of European society, is that Europe's fault? http://nypost.com/2016/03/22/muslim-ghettos-in-europe-are-hotbeds-for-terror/

2. You'll be surprised how much immigration costs Europe: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/swedens-ugly-immigration-problem/article26338254/

3. Of course it has, but large scale immigration is only a recent thing. You never saw millions of ME enter Europe, unless it was for conquest (balkans, Iberian).

4. So Europeans slowly going to extinction in their homeland of thousands of years is ok with you? Thats nice...

1. The level of immigrant integration most definately also depends on local hostility or readiness to interact with the newcomers.

2. There's a difference between immigration and the refugees. Refugees are people that you accept for humanitarian reasons. It's not to be expected that they are rentable.

3. Mass immigration into America/Canada was a thing. For Europe, the ex soviet union sent its fair share of strays.

4. How does the amount of immigrants in any way bring to european extinction? People don't stop having children because immigrants are around. At the 1.36 birthrate that Germany has they will need no help whatsoever to die off

 

Actually, poorer populations in western nations tend to have much higher birthrates. So if immigrants are ruining european economy, as you say, they are probably helping to keep them from going extinct

Doesn't make a difference. At the end of the day, the demographic chart says it all. Import lots of immigrants, and they'll retire eventually. You still won't have enough kids, as the birth rate is below 2.1, so you need more immigration. Then the process starts to balloon...