Europe- economy, immigrants, and a potential inspiration

[barneystinson69]

VGPolyglot said:

barneystinson69 said:

Right. So those immigrant ghettos in parts of Western Europe don't exist? And is it not true that immigrants use the majority of welfare, have high unemployement, and are a drain in certain countries? Why do people keep insisting that Europe needs immigration? Europe was a great society for 100s of years without immigration, but now they NEED it? Merkel said it herself that multiculturalism was a failure. Also, you know the demographic consequences as well. Europeans are almost a minority in London, Brussles, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and soon many others.

1. Of course there's going to be immigrant ghettos, when you're poor you're forced into moving to a cheaper, more dangerous place.

2. If you do the research, you'll see that most immigrants who are on welfare would have already had to have worked and paid into social security:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/10391238/Benefits-in-Europe-country-by-country.html

3. Migration has occurred throughout all of human history, including Europe. It's not just some new idea in the last few years. Also, you think Europe was much better centuries ago than it is now? I'm sure that you'd love living in a society rid with disease, poverty and constant war.

4. And why should we care if Europeans are a demographic minority in those cities? Native Americans are minorities in much of the Americas, are you going to complain abut that too?

1. Right, and when those areas start refusing to integrate, and the area starts becoming seperated from the whole of European society, is that Europe's fault? http://nypost.com/2016/03/22/muslim-ghettos-in-europe-are-hotbeds-for-terror/

2. You'll be surprised how much immigration costs Europe: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/swedens-ugly-immigration-problem/article26338254/

3. Of course it has, but large scale immigration is only a recent thing. You never saw millions of ME enter Europe, unless it was for conquest (balkans, Iberian).

4. So Europeans slowly going to extinction in their homeland of thousands of years is ok with you? Thats nice...