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Aura7541 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, there's a reason that rich people are rich: in other words, they take the surplus of labour from the workers while giving as little back to them as they have to.

There is more than one way to get rich. Some are ethical while others are not. So you should really be focusing on the rich people who got their wealth through unethical means.

OT: I feel that it's just going to be the same healthcare policy, but under a different name. Maybe there will be changes, but they won't be enough to consitute an actual reform.

 

 

Oh....you mean like our current President? Because that's exactly how he got where he is. Inherited the first bunch, bumbled and cheated his way through the rest. Not to mention going "bankrupt" multiple times, and somehow still managing to come out on top. It was always hilarious from the very beginning, that people were actually buying his rhetoric about "being an outsider" and "draining the swamp", for two reasons.

1. He has, for decades, BEEN one of the "special interests" with Congress in his pocket.

2. The instant he got elected, he put together a cabinet filled with mostly, you guessed it, old "insiders", both from DC, and the speciial ineterest camps, aka his Big Business buddies. Not a single person he put in his cabinet is NOT rich, and most of them are major corporate players of some sort or another. So while he played the people on a "populist" bill of goods to conservative whites etc. who wanted to "take their country back", the real truth is, and always has been, that he and his super-rich buddies are all out for themselves, and every single thing they try to do for the next four years, is going to be to benefit their own bottom line, nothing else.


It isn't as if Hillary was the answer, and both major parties are corrupt, the system itself a decaying forum. We should have never had "Two Major Parties" to begin with, that was never the intent of the "Founding Fathers". But regardless, that is what we have, and blind zealot voters on BOTH sides, every four years, vote desperately to "save the country" from the other party. Dems get into power to "save the country" from the GOP, and then four (or eight) years later, the GOP rides back into the White House, claiming to "save the country" from the Dems. And all the while, both parties are made up of, primarily, the super rich, who do NOT share the interests or concerns of the common Americans, who don't care about the environment, or the future of this country. Because if they did, they'd truly work to change things for the better. Instead, both parties work feverishly to make damn sure that things stay exactly as they are, stagnant and on a steady decline.

And I say this as somoene who used to vote "Dem", because "you had to". Because "it's the only way people can make a difference". I have come to understand, however, that politicians and politics are not the way any real, meaningful change is ever going to occur. People in the private sector, rich AND poor, and work to make things happen on their own, in many ways. But politics? It only ever serves those running, not those voting.