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Nem on 06 March 2017
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JWeinCom said:
Nem said:

I'm the one has to say "Wow"... and why i was reluctant to answer your questions. You are still unabe to grasp that we aren't talking about children. You just love to bring the 5 and 2 year olds into this. Soon you are gonna talk about them still in the womb. Get real dude, you have way too many preconceptions that impede you from thinking critically.

The world is not back and white. I think this conversation has gone on long enough.

Yes we are talking about children.  12 year olds are children. According to 192 nations in the world.

I brought up younger children, as I mentioned several times, to establish the point that at a certain age, we can conclude that a person is always unable to consent.  I assumed that would be a point we would easily agree on, and we could move on to figure out where that mark should be, and whether 12 years old was past it.  But, you proved me wrong by repeatedly insisting that there is no age where we can always conclude consent is ipossible.  And when I point out how insane that is, you act offended that I even brought it up, when you're the one suggesting that maybe a five year old can consent.

Cause some things are black and white.  I thought the fact that certain ages cannot consent to sexual activity would be something so black and white that we could agree, and then build on that... but I guess not.  So, point blank, can we conclude that five year olds are never able to consent?  If you can't answer that with a simple no, then don't act like I'm the one saying crazy shit.

I'm talking about puberty from the time it starts. I even gave you an estimate of not sooner than 12, but i admit that crazy exceptions may occur. Why am i repeating all this?

You want to put a hard age like say 12 and up, but that goes against the exception cases i'm bringing up. It's because they are exceptions that it is difficult to categorise them with hard lines of age and why i used the term puberty. As in sexually developed and with a developed body size.

You just can't fathom these exception for some reason. Everything must go on group 1 or group 2.No deviations allowed. I am NOT sugesting Children. I have never brought up children. You diluted the conversation in your head by deciding that a consenting 12 or 14 year old presumibly developed is a Child. He isn't a child, he is a teenager. Puberty is what makes one not be a child anymore. It's not an age.