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SpokenTruth said:
Random_Matt said:
Just wait for optimizations, 2Q is ages away.

You do know that's going to pit them up against Intels next release, right?

Which is basically just another Skylake refresh, with some little enhancements here and there. Very probably won't do very much to the IPC. The main improvement of Cannonlake is the 10nm process, which only comes for mobile (due to many problems with the process), and it's desktop/server counterpart Coffee Lake apparently won't even get all the improvements of Cannonlake.

What I'm waiting for is Raven Ridge, aka the Zen APUs. With 12 NCU and faster RAM (I hope for DDR4-3200 to reduce the bottleneck) or even 16NCU coupled with HBM1 as both LLC and VRAM (no more bottleneck) these could be superb for a (gaming) HTPC.

And since RyZen already have a higher performance per watt (even with the lower performance per clock) than Intel's chips I can see them coming back to the mobile market with a revenge. I really hope that the OEM finally will be able to produce some worthwile AMD laptops this time around, what they did until now with the mobile APUs was close on sabotage imo