VGPolyglot said:
Evolution doesn't work like that. It's not like there's a clear shift into a new species. Instead, it's gradual change that becomes more noticeable when you compare a longer timespan. |
False.
Evolution is like a tree, we have a common ancestor with Apes, we didn't evolve from Apes.
Or you take a Great Dane and a Chiwawa... They are very distinct and different breeds of "dogs". - But they both evolved from a common ancestor, the Wolf. - the Wolf didn't stop existing as soon as Dogs came around however, dogs branched off.
Speciation has been proven to occur in real time... But we can't use a mammals with much longer life and breeding times, we need to use insects, such as the fruit fly, otherwise it would take longer than a life time to observe.
William Rice and George Salt back in the 80's built a maze with several different paths, with each path having different characteristics, such as one path being wet/dry or light/dark. - Each fly generation was placed into the maze... And the group of flies that exited out of one part of the maze were only allowed to breed with each other and not with the flies that exited out of another part of the maze.
After a few dozen generations, the fly's ended up being extremely distinct to the point where they couldn't even breed with each other when reintroduced, they were two seperate species.
That test has been done multiple times, peer reviewed and verified... Even you could do it in your home and watch evolution in real time.
| LivingMetal said: That's fine, but no one has yet to observe one kind of animal changing into another no matter how you slice is as I just pointed out (spliting hairs). |
Then we have the Wall Lizards... Which shows rapid evolution.
In the 70's Italian wall lizards were introduced to a small island where they weren't native, decades later they were compared to the native italian wall lizards... And there were substantual biological changes in the species, their diets changed from one that was insect-heavyt to one that was plant-heavy, the diet change resulted in the introduced lizards having a larger head with a stronger bite, new muscles in the intestine to seperate food portions to aid the bacteria to break down the plant matter.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080421-lizard-evolution.html
I can provide many more expamples if you require it.
| JWeinCom said: Eh... evolution is not a theory. Like, I don't mean "it's not a theory because it's proven". I mean it's just literally not a theory. Like, there is no "theory of evolution". |
False. It is a Theory.
You take a bunch of facts that have been derived from verified, peer reviewed observation and experimentation... You build a model around that, which then is used to build a Theory.
Theories are not a guess, they are reliable accounts.
The Theory of Evolution most certainly does exist, we have observed changes in animals in real time, we have built models and experiments around that, we then use that to forward the Theory of Evolution.
| BlkPaladin said: |
Sorry that I had to cut your post, it was extensively long, I would have preferred to have given you the proper reply that you deserve... However. I would probably end up here all day. I'll keep it short instead.
The Bible is the Claim, not evidence.
If you have to re-interpret the Bible in a different way that deviates from the written literal interpretation of the text to make it compatible with science, then the Bible is inaccurate. Plain and Simple.
There is no evidence for God, there is no evidence of Intelligent design, ergo. Your religious ideology should not come before science... And you shouldn't try to fit your religion in with science, science has nothing to do with religion, it doesn't care about religion and it certainly doesn't care if a God does/does not exist... What science is truly about is explaining what we have observed with evidence, models and experimentation... Aka. Everything that your religion is against.
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