JWeinCom said:
Nem said:
Look, i already said that in general i agree with that. I just don't have the grounds to validate or not your claims in terms of brain development, but i find it hard to believe that there aren't overdeveloped 12 year olds when that is an expectable puberty age. But fair enough, i give you the benefit of the doubt.
What i know is that there was a boy and a woman that really wanted to be and have a family together and i can not in my god nature just tell them no, its wrong, even though your bodies and minds seem clealy prepared for it. Why would it happen twice man? If it was a mistake, and she went to prison and i am pretty sure he saw the consequences right there as no doubt judges, lawyers and family no doubt explained extensively, and 2 years later they decided to have another child. I dunno.
That is why i can't see it just as casual impulse sex as you do. To me, it's clear that there is more to this story and more than upholding some unclear line on morals, i prefer to look at the particular situation itself.
I don't think Mahr endorses pedophilia just because he can see that there is something particular about that case.
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The brain develops differently from the rest of your body. The brain is more complex than any other part of our body by several orders of magnitude. Everything else in our body is pretty much developed by the time we're like two years old, and it's just a matter of size after that. Sexual characteristics, which are controlled mostly by hormones. If there is a hormone imbalance, puberty can actually happen as early as 5 years old in girls.
So, just because the body can be ready to reproduce (which has happened in five year old girls) doesn't mean the brain is developed enough. Again, it is possible for a brain to be overdeveloped, but not to that great an extent. If it did happen (which I don't know that it could) we'd be talking about a once in a generation genius. And this is not even accounting social development which obviously related directly to time.
Why would it happen twice? Don't know and it doesn't matter. I do TONS of stupid shit in my life more than twice. Particularly when sex is involved and hormones cloud rational thought. People are especially likely to make stupid decisions when it comes to sexual matters. We see girls going back to abusive boyfriends time and time again. We see guys get taken advantage of by girls for years on end. People do dumb shit all the time, but it really doesn't matter. When the initial act occured, he was 12. Anything that happens after the crime was committed is irrelevant.
I'm not sure why you keep shoving words into my mouth. I never said it was a casual impulse sex. And I don't care. If someone is truly and deeply in love with a five year old and they are truly and deeply convinced the five year old loves them back and is mentally capable of a sexual relationship does not make it ok in any capacity. Obviously a 5 and a 12 year old are mentally worlds apart, but my point is that whether it was casual sex or a long term relationship is completely irrelevant to whether or not the child was capable of consent. Two totally different issues.
Show me anything that Maher said that indicates he thought this was an exceptional case. Nothing he said indicates that. I actually like Maher, but his comments here are totally wrong, and kind of disgusting.
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