| Pemalite said: Ever heard of the saying... "Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it probably is a duck?" That applys to Trans people. A female to male trans person who walks like a man, talks like a man, is a man. |
So you believe that when it comes to trans people (and accordingly, the Gretchenfrage of "Which toilet/changing room/shower room should they go to?"), we should apply the "duck test" = abductive reasoning.
Since the "duck test" suggests determining an object's (sexual or whatever) identity by their observable characteristics, you must obviously be against Obama's policy of trans people simply deciding for themselves which toilet they go to. (because, after all, the "duck test" does not say "If it believes to look like a duck, swim like a duck, and quack like a duck, then it probably is a duck.") Correct?
Now that you mention the "duck test", I'm starting to realize that you are actually indeed touching the very core of this whole transgender-toilet-issue:
The whole problem is ultimately about the "rubbish transvestites" (as the BBC comedy programme "Little Britain" sometimes called the characters Emily and Florence), who fail to pass the sex "duck test" in the eyes of their fellow human beings.
A trans person who mimics the characteristics (looks, behaviour etc.) of the opposite sex so perfectly that everybody believes them to actually be of the opposite sex is ultimately a non-issue: If he/she walks into a public toilet for the opposite sex than he was born with, enters a toilet cubicle, does his business and leaves again, nobody will even care - because they passed the "duck test" so perfectly that nobody even became suspicious and thus felt uncomfortable about someone from the opposite sex entering an intimate zone reserved for his own sex.
The whole problem only exists if a trans person fails to pass the "duck test"; i.e. if, in the eyes of the other people in the toilet/changing room/shower room, he does not "look like a man/woman, swim like a man/woman, and quack like a man/woman" (to stick with the duck test meme), and thus start to feel uncomfortable.
So, maybe, the solution is indeed to decide the question of which public toilet/changing room/shower room a trans person should go to by a "duck test": Trans people who want to use a different toilet/changing room/shower room than for the sex they were born with get judged by a kind of neutral jury who performs a "duck test" and guesses what sex/gender the person is of. If the jury members believe the person to be of the opposite sex than he was born with, he is allowed to use the public toilets reserved for that sex.
