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Goatseye said:
binary solo said:

Democrats had decades to work out what sort of healthcare system they want to put in place (and they still only managed to come up with the halfarsed Obamacare. Republicans have had less than 8 years to come up with an alternative to Obamacare, and in reality after exhasting all the court challenge avenues they had less than 4 years to start putting policy together. And given most people were expecting Hillary to win they probably throught they had at least another 4 years to really start putting pen to paper.

So I don't criticise them too much for not having a working solution ready at this stage. It's just that the spitball proposals that are doing the rounds are so awful and won't actually achieve better health care for lower cost. They will mostly achieve worse healthcare for lower federal cost. 

You didn't tell the whole story here. Obamacare is just a skeleton of UHC like any other country because it was deemed a threat to our constitution, consequently it got crippled severely out of the gate. Republicans had 2 years to just draft an ammendment to make it better but that would be a continuation of Obamacare and a betrayal to their constituents that voted on the repeal wagon.

I know a lot of people on the left really want UHC, and I remember Ted Kennedy being giddy with excitement at the prospect of finally having UHC. But really, unless the Republicans really screw up on healthcare badly in Trump's tenure and hand big majorities in Congress and Senate (60+ in the Senate) to the next Democratic president the implementation of Obamacare actually delays UHC in the USA more or less indefinitely.

It was interesting to see John Boehner's comment a few days ago that in the end the Republcan congress will settle for Obamacare with "conservative" tweaks. And if that is the outcome that will become the entrenched health care system for decades to come. As there will be no political capital or political will to reform the system further towards UHC.



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