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Dravenet7 said:
Now to be fair, most new games are bad by any standard.

Only because anyone who wants to can make a game now. If you look at the big companies, most games are not bad. Infact obsession over scores, such as if this new game got a 9 or "only" 8, or god forbid a 7, shows that most major games are good. The argument just comes down to if they're "just" good, or are they great, or are they amazing.

specialk said:
outlawauron said:

That entirely depends on the person. Sometimes just having fun with something when you were a child is good enough. I'm not saying people are wrong to be nostalgia, just that it's not based in reason. The bar and goalposts move each year, so it's to be expected that what was once good isn't good enough anymore.

Things you're nostalgic for absolutely have the benefit of piggy-backing off of the fondness for the time and place in your life that you experienced them, but I think people are more inclined to be nostalgic over things that have genuine quality over things that do not.

I also think it's a mistake to assume that modern advances and conveniences always set the standard for what is or isn't good.

People still watch the Twilight Zone even though a large majority of people were born after the air date of the final episode. I myself was born  almost 30 years after the show aired. The show is dated in many ways. Some of the themes are less relavent today than they were back then. The show is in black and white. Many episodes don't show confidence in the intellect of the viewer and thus explain many concepts over and over again to make sure that we "get it".

I can still watch it though and clearly see the high quality of something that I can't possibly be nostalgic for.

It's the same with video games IMO. If a lot of people are nostalgic for something there is a pretty good chance there's a good reason for it.

I fail to understand how any of the Twilight Zone talk has any relevance to your point about things you are nostalgic about being good. The reason you can see if the show is good or not is because you don't have nostalgia for it. If you did, your view would be biased. Almsot everyone is nostalgic about some terrible songs/games/cartoons/whatever from their childhood and it has very little to do with quality. Hell, it doesn't even have to be childhood.