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SvennoJ on 14 February 2017
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Ganoncrotch said:
But if you had the disc you could only be playing it in one system anyway? I'm not sure I understand this, as you have it you can have your kids playing a game on your primary ps4 offline and you can be in another room playing the same game on the secondary ps4 while it's connected to psn.

So if the price was to come into play not only are digital games for the most part a great deal cheaper, they're purchasable and delivered right to your TV and you get to potentially have 2 copies of the game to play on both machines every other minute of the year... except for during maintenance.

Definitely think the pros outweigh the cons no matter what way you look at things really in terms of digital games library. (there are some cons, but what you've listed here most certainly are not the major ones)

If I have the disc I can play it on any system without having to be logged in on my account. I don't want to play the same game on 2 different systems, I simply want to play a game on the pro, while my kids play another on the base ps4. The problem is a lot of games nowadays only have a digital release. DC VR I can still get a retail copy off, however many other VR games are digital only.

Conina said:

If you have bonus tracks or cars installed, that would have probably also happened with a retail version of DriveClub VR.

So if you don't abstain from ANY digital content (even if the licenses are free), you will have problems on a non-primary PS4 sometimes. Deal with it. ;)

What normally happens with the retail version is that club access disappears which means cars unlocked by club level are temporarily not useable. I have the retail version of normal DC with season pass. All the add on content does stay accessible. It's kinda moronic too, but nothing like getting thrown out of the game entirely.

Edit: Actually after checking on the secondary ps4, without signing into psn I can play DC with all downloaded tracks, even DriveClub Bikes, however only with 1 bike and the original set of cars, all DLC cars are unaccesible. Still better than not playing at all :/

BraLoD said:
Ka-pi96 said:

His kids would only be able to play the games there on different accounts if that was set as the primary PS4. I suppose you could say it's tied to the system, but only the primary system so if you change that you'd lose access on non-primary systems unless using your own account (and being connected online apparently).

I don't know if I understand what you said there.
I know you can play the games from one account on another in the same system.
I also know you can download the same games to two different systems.

So he can have his kids playing his games on another account on the PS4, and also have his games on his new PS4.
Now, if I understood what you said, you are saying his kids will only be able to play his games while his old PS4 is set as his account primary system, so anyway he'll have to keep playing on his Pro as a secondary system, and if he changes that, making the Pro his account primary system, his kids won't be able to play those games on the old PS4 anymore, was that what you said?

I dunno if that's the case.

The games aren't really tied to the system. A system set as primary allows other users and yourself to play any digital content on that system, on or offline, that's tied to the primary account holder. A system can be the primary for multiple accounts, but only one system can be the primary for any one account.

So if I set my pro as primary, my kids cannot play my digital content on the base ps4 from their accounts. Same as I can now only play my digital content on the pro when signed into psn on my account. (Which was the issue last night, psn was down)

Mummelmann said:
When people write about the pain of having digital games, I'm reminded of the ludicrous infomercials where the most mundane task becomes impossible...

I simply can't fathom how people get in such trouble with digital games, I've been more or less 100% digital for 5-6 years now and rarely run into any sort of trouble, my only hick-up was having somewhat slow internet a few years back but even that was mostly inconvenient and not something that hurt my gaming prospects or enjoyment.

Well what is the solution?

1. I play games with my kids together, result: Savegames with our shared data are locked to my account, eg our 3 year old Minecraft world.
2. My kids also like to play those games without me yet can only continue that shared data by starting the game from my account.
3. I like to play something else too now and then while they're messing about in Minecraft or Terraria, hence I bought a second system, the pro.
4. Can't log in to the same account on two different ps4s
5. Can't play digital games on a secondary system without logging in.

So indeed the most mundane task seems to become impossible. So far if it's an offline game they want to play it's still possible by making sure the primary does not log in to psn (and boot me out of the pro). Yet they can't play PvZ GW2 on the base ps4 while I try to play DC VR on the pro. It's impossible. Ergo, ps4 is not family friendly. (I guess it's possible if they start from scratch and pay CAD 70 for ps+ themselves which would be me paying double while I'm not even playing online multiplayer)