| SegataSanshiro said: We are by nature omnivores. Our bodies need both. Vegans are often unhealthy. They don't think so but they have far less stamina. In fact a Vegan recently died trying to climb a mountain and died because of the diet. Meat is good for you provided it's not the only thing you eat. Same with veggies. In fact many vegetables you can starve to death eating them alone. Maybe cut to chicken and fish. I am no picture of great health mainly because lazy but I have learned a bit from my heart doctors and working with athletics. |
First of all, mad props for the Segata Shanshiro avatar. :D That's where your post goes off the rails for me, though.
Secondly, our bodies do not "need both". There's no RDA (recommended daily amount) for meat. There's no nutrient that's exclusive to meat. Vegans are not "often unhealthy" as you claim, and in fact vegans are deficient in fewer nutrients than omnivores are. While both vegans and omnivores tend to be deficient in calcium and iodine, vegans are additionally typically deficient in vitamin B12. However, omnivores are additionally deficient in dietary fibre, folate, magnesium, vitamin C, and vitamin E. SOURCE: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/omnivore-vs-vegan-nutrient-deficiencies-2/ And vegans are the only chunk of the North American population that averages in the ideal BMI range. SOURCE: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/thousands-of-vegans-studied/ Even pescetarians and vegetarians didn't manage that. It seems to me like the omnivorous diet is the one that's hard to get right, which makes sense as meat, dairy, and eggs are so calorie dense that it means that successful weight management means less food eaten (and fewer nutrients consumed) in total.
Vegans dying on everst proves nothing. You can be a vegan and eat oreo cookies. And you have badly misrepresented the link you provided, I read it and it makes no suggestion that being vegan was part of the problem it goes on to demonstrate that 30 other people in that same period of time (presumably omnivores) failed and/or made themselves sick in the attempt at climbing everst. If someone read your words but didn't click on the link they'd think it listed some medical evidence to suggest being vegan (as opposed to atmospheric conditions and dumb luck) was the difference, but the article doesn't say that.
Meat isn't healthy in any quantity, really. One study in Japan studied Japanese buddhists (known for eating whole food diets). The plant-based whole food buddhists were far healthier than even the whole food buddhists who ate small amounts of meat one day a week. SOURCE: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/plant-based-diets-and-diabetes/
Far less stamina? A growing number of endurance athleses are converting to veganism (see source link in a previous post) because plant-based diets suffer less inflammation in the body which improves recovery times, and cultures in Central America and Africa with long histories of tremendous feats of endurance are extremely plant-based.
Eat meat if that's your choice, but spreading misinformation might encourage others to do so based on those falsehoods and that's all kinds of wrong.
