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Bandorr said:
Alkibiádēs said:
Sony and MS are definitely ripping people off for asking $60 a year just to play online games.

And giving you games. New games. And games you get to keep.

For example Sony gives away 6 games (and usually more than that because of crossbuy) a month. That value of that last year was over $1000.

Microsoft gives away 4 games that can all be played on one system. Worth $930.

Along with lots of features, and discounts.

Of course it would be better if it was like the PS3.  Free online, but pay if you want the games and features.

 

So what do you have to say with Microsoft approach of gimping games if you don't pay for Live? There are numerous games where you can't play offline multiplayer if you don't have Live account active (Forza Horizon) or can't even save offline profiles for games.