VGPolyglot said:
eva01beserk said:
there you go with the force. You think a man having a say has to be forcing a women. There are many reasons to have an abortion. And in most cases the mother should have the final say. But there could be times it should not be allowed. sometimes all a women needs is some councelling and shes good. maybe someone agrees to take care of the baby and adopts it.
Lets say a couple has planed this baby, and they both wanted it. in over the course of the pregnancy the mother just gets a promotion, or is about to get one, and she decided "well now its not a good time to have a baby". You think thats fair to the father. He could be willing and able to still suport the family or even she leaving and he keeping the kid. theres defenetly a possible understanding to be had here.
ANd you keep saying its the womens body but you dont even consider the baby. Its not a parasity that you drink some medice in is craped out, its an almost fully developed human being by this stage in the pregnancy.
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You say that it's not force, yet you say that it should not be allowed, which you would need to use force to enforce. I'm saying it's the woman's body because it is part of the woman's baby. Also, if we're talking about in practice, it would be highly unlikely that a woman would choose to abort so late into pregnancy unless there was something drastic happening.
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This is excactly the point people dont get. If something drastic where to happen, then nothing a man can say would stand up in court, so its not an issue. This law would basicly be a formality by the doctors to have concent from both parents before the extraction. If the doctor does not get it, then they go to court and the woman should get it quite easy if something drastic did happen, even against the will of the father.
