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setsunatenshi said:

Navi should be out by 2019 for the regular consumer according to AMD's roadmap (was supposed to come out in 2018 until not that long ago) but obviously the release date will depend in how MS positions their new console.

If they do a clean break from the XB1 I'm sure they will have the PS5 not more than 1 year after the Scorpio.

MS having a clean break from the XB1 in 2017 with the scorpio is the single worst thing MS can do for the XBox brand. It will be a disaster. reason being that with the currently rumoured specs, regardless of what MS PR may want people to think. The scorpio is nowhere near powerful enough to mark a next gen jump in performance from the PS4/PS4pro.

As for Navi, AMD and Global foundries announced last year that they expect to begin "risk" production in 2018. But also said that they expect to to have Zen+, Vega 20 and Navi chips on helves by 2020. That descripency from 2018-2020 is because risk production is just glorified speak for extremely low yeild and expensive fabrication. Until they iron out all the fabrication kinks.

If sony/MS intend on using Navi for their next gen consoles, then they have to wait till that fabrication tech becomes mainstream. And thats why i said at its soonest it will be 2020.