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thismeintiel on 28 January 2017
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Pemalite said:
thismeintiel said:
I think we're going to be getting a lower end Ryzen CPU, which will still be much more powerful than the one in the PS4/XBO/Scorpio (if its still using Jaguar.) I also expect a low-mid Vega GPU. One I saw the leaked rumors for was 12 Tflops, with 16 GB of HBM2 RAM. I think they may use that one for a base, but lower the performance slightly for heat reasons to about 11 Tflops, with maybe 12 GB of RAM.

Ryzen and Vega will be old and slow in 2020.

2019, but nice use of hyperbole.  Will it be top of the line by then?  No.  But, that makes it perfect for a $399 game console.

KBG29 said:
thismeintiel said:

I doubt Sony is worried about getting into any and every market, like MS is.  You don't succeed by entering a market 2-3 years or more too late, that already has a VERY clear 1st and 2nd winner and hope to spend your way to 1st, again, like MS.  In fact, they are doing the exact opposite, getting rid of or spending less money on markets they aren't doing so hot in.  It's a much better business plan for them at this point.

It is not about spending your way to first place, it is about building an ecosystem where you can stay engaged with your customer 24/7 and anywhere they go. Any company that does not have that has no future in consumer electronics and operating systems. Microsoft knows that they can not survive on PC alone, Apple and Google know they can't survive on Phones alone, and Sony had better be fully aware that they can not rely on consoles alone.

For PlayStation to remain a viable OS in the marketplace Sony has to be competitive with the other OS's on the market. All other OS's are becoming available on TVs, Set Top Boxes, Tablets, Laptops, Phones, consoles, PCs, and pretty much every other little nik nak on the market. An OS that ties your content to one piece of hardware is going to be a joke in the next 5 years. Games are being built on scalable engines, and phones with XBO/PS4 level capability are going to be here in the next 2 - 3 years. The only difference between games going forward is going to be resolution and frame rate. If Sony can not offer an array of products that massivly increase the value of your software library, then there will be no place in the market for PlayStation.

They don't have to be the number one Phone maker, Tablet Maker, Laptop Maker, Home Assistant Maker, or Wearable Maker. But, they damn sure better have those products available for the 55M+ people that are buying into their eycosystem. Build every product around the same basic hardware, and cut R&D cost massivly. Sell all products at a profit, so even if they only have 30M PS Phone users and 15M PS Laptop users, at least the product is profitable. Most of all, stop competeing against yourself by building products with other companies OSs. All Bravia and Xperia device need to run on a Sony OS, and help create more incentive for app creation on the platform. 

If Sony can not run on its own OS, and build its own ecosystem, then they have no need to be in the hardware business. They are better off just supplying chips and tech to other companies. At that point they should sell off their TV, Camera, Phone, Gaming, Music, and Movie business, because they are no longer a consumer products company.

This is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard.  I guess all of those companies that make millions on cell phones with Android on them should just quit making those millions.  I mean, it's not their OS, so fuck'em.  Hell, Windows Mobile should have crushed the competition.  Everyone already has Windows on their PCs after all.

Sony can just make OS's for their remaining HW, continue to make millions, and be fine.  The masses don't care about having a PS OS on everything they own.  IF they wanted a unified OS, the PS4 wouldn't even be selling so well.  Everyone would stick with Android tablets and TV boxes.