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Alkibiádēs said:
NightDragon83 said:
I like how over the past several years the so-called doomsday clock has been closer to midnight than it was during the Cuban Missile Crisis which was arguably the height of the Cold War. Apparently they see global warming / climate change, which are both naturally occurring events, as bigger threats to the planet than mutually assured destruction due to nuclear war.

Alot of the things being said about Trump today are the same things people were saying about Reagan in the 80s... that we've got an old senile dude in the White House with his finger on the proverbial nuclear trigger. Despite all the alarm bells being rung by the media and the political left in the 80s, things turned out pretty well (for the most part) under Reagan. It will be no different under Trump, so everyone can just relax with the hysteria.

The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. That's your definition of things turning out pretty well? Not to mention that he mishandled the aids epidemy. 

I was going to mention this. The Reagan Admististrations response to the AIDS epideminc was criminally negligent.

bdbdbd said:
bonzobanana said:
When Russia was the Soviet Union it said it was a communist socialist republic but was really a brutal dictatorship and now Russia claims to be a democratic country it is still a brutal dictatorship.

I don't think such a country can ever be safe on a world stage where any opponents of Putin disappear or face unjust legal action.

If it all goes sour Trump Vs Putin is going to be a very dangerous situation.

Russia was never Soviet Union, just one part of it. When Russia declared independence from Soviet Union, was when Soviet Union fell.

Alkibiádēs said:

The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. That's your definition of things turning out pretty well? Not to mention that he mishandled the aids epidemy. 

This is new. Never knew US having an AIDS epidemy. I always thought it was just Africa around Sahara to have AIDS epidemy. I remember reading about it even in school back in the 80's.

Yes. Yes, they did. A bad one. People were dying like flies. Many of them misrable in pain and alone without any help because hospitals would refuse to treat them. And the Reagan administration stood by doing nothing for large parts of it, presumably because it was predominantly gay people dying at first. They only started funding research when Rock Hudson, Reagans close personal friend died of it, years into the epidemic and even then the governmental response was slow and insufficient. They even decreased funding several times during the height of the epidemic.

Advances in AIDS reseach and treatment, during the time were largely driven by doctors and activists from within the gay community trying to understand and cure what was wasting them away. Most of the early research was privately funded. While there probably was no way of preventing HIV from getting into the national blood supply, suffcient research into the cause of GRID as AIDS was known at the time could have lead to effective tests faster and protected thousands from getting infected. It was gay activists who first outlined and promoted what we know today as 'safe sex'. They single-handedly brought the condom industry back into full swing. The governement meanwhile had no official guideline on risk-behaviours or cause of AIDS.

A single pamphlet called 'How to have sex in an epidemic' (penned by gay AIDS victims) drastically brought down infection rates of various STDs in gay men by as much as 90% within weeks. This shows how a more swift response from the government with proper research-funding and information on risk-behavious could have prevented lots of new infections and saved countless of lives. And this is not even taking any kind of research into life-prolonging measurements or even a cure into account.

So yeah, the Reagan administration did huge damage there. Just from a standpoint of desease control their response was catastrophic. But then again, there is no real guarantee that a democratic/non Reagan republican administration would have reacted much different. There was no gay friendly party really, until one of the activists got into a shouting match with Bill Clinton, making him promise that he would take the epidemic and research into a cure head-on if he got into office.