The Economist Just Downgraded the US From a ‘Full Democracy’ to a ‘Flawed Democracy’

[Alkibiádēs]

DonFerrari said:

Lafiel said:

but the larger the group that feels rejected or flat out wronged the more chance there is for extreme reactions

Could be... yet nowadays we see it more on the very minority groups than on the majorities.

Alkibiádēs said:

I'm curious what left wing you're talking about. The USA doesn't have a left wing. The Democrats aren't left-wing (some of its individual members like Bernie Sanders are though, but they actively worked against him anyway), Clinton isn't left-wing and Obama isn't either. People really need to stop blaming the left wing for everything. Not everyone who is against Trump belongs to the left wing for crying out loud. He's an extremist. And please, what serious politician called Cuba a democracy? You're just making things up it seems. 

Obama and Clinton are right-wing politicians, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The USA isn't a democracy, it's an oligarchy. 

Ok, if you say so.

The growing of the state and excessive regulation that Obama and democrats love so much is what leftwing most like. That and doing social control through their programs.

What serious politician? In USA I don't know (but from what I heard even Trudeau was saying good stuff about Castro). And for your information in Brazil, 2/3 of the parties and politicians act and say like Cuba and Venezuela are democracies and that the presidents there were elected.

Saying good stuff isn't the same as claiming Cuba is a democracy and the topic is about the USA, nobody cares about Brazil, at least not here. 

And more state control isn't something that's typical of left-wing politics anyway. In the USA they've always had a phobia of a government that has too much power, but it's mostly just hysterical fear anyway. In Europe this phobia doesn't really exist, at least not to the extent it does in the USA. Right-wing parties here never argue against things like social healthcare, why would they? It's beneficial to the population. If Obama came to Europe he'd definitely be considered a right-wing politician, and not a left-wing one.