9th Gen starts on March 3

[DonFerrari]

A_C_E said:

DonFerrari said:

So you would need to insert a gen because Atari 2600 and 5200 are inside the same gen... and as said by fat PS1-PS4 would be the same system because of naming?

Nope it isn't.

NVidia Shield, the chinese HH, PSVita/PSP is making the same... and as I said, unless you show anything done on Switch that is totally impossible in any 8th gen platform then maybe we can concede, but no technology in Switch so far is allowing new different games.

After the release of the SG-3000 - because it released as the SG-3000 - Sega then rebranded the SG-3000 as the Master System when launched world wide. SG-3000 and Master System are the same thing. That was my point. This is not even close to comparable to what Sony did with PS1-4. Sony didn't re-release the PS1 and then call it the PS2. You have got to be kidding me with how you guys are grasping at straws here. It's no longer fun discussing this, I mean how hard is it to understand?

Some aspects are the same, which I've agreed upon, but the implementation, execution, gameplay, are very different and much more complete since the gaming experience is built from the ground up to take advantage of the implementation. From a power aspect the 8th generation can do all of what Switch can do just like the 360 and PS3 can do anything that the Wii U could do (an 8th generation console). The Wii U can't run Zelda:BotW as well as Switch can. The Switch will be able to do 1080p gaming at 60FPS in alot more games than Wii U (does the Wii U even have any games that run 1080p 60FPS?). But the talk about processing power does not override the fact that the Switch is the successor to the Wii U just like the PS2 is the successor to the PS1 and so on...

The PS2 wasn't the successor to the PS1 simply because it was more powerful. And the Switch is definitely more powerful than the Wii U, just look at the Zelda: BotW comparison video and how much more detailed the Switch version is. Switch is obviously more powerful, to say otherwise is just acting ignorant.

So is SG-1000, SG-2000 and SG-3000 the same system? Nope, not the same system with different names.

We already accepted that Switch is the sucessor to WiiU, what isn't accepted is that Switch would be 9th gen because of it. And you haven't brought to table what is the new things that they are bringing and what was impossible before. Saying Zelda BotW wouldn't play in 1080p60fps in WiiU (while it would with quite some easyness on PS4 or X1) doesn't make Switch a 9th gen console.

ManUtdFan said:

DonFerrari said:

This one I have missed... please tell me more...

It sort of went like this... Kowenicki proudly declared "Xbox One will usher in 8th gen!" (ignoring the Wii ), on account of earlier worldwide release.

Then someone - turkish i think, said "like no way PS4 came out U.S. a week earlier, haha".

Then Kowenicki fired back "Xbox One is the definitive 8th gen marker, bc china and japan don't matter -  they are '2nd world' countries".

Then some sony guy said "Japan virtually invented modern video games!" (ignoring crappy 1st/2nd gen). Kowenicki then got really angry "Look!  I decide who invents video games and who starts next generations. Not you, or anyone else. Arrrgghhhh!"

Oww thanks, that is a great history... almost tops the smart of 13 versus 30.