9th Gen starts on March 3

[DonFerrari]

A_C_E said:

fatslob-:O said:

The Master System doesn't even set an example for the PS4 Pro when the new sega system has a huge rift in terms of access to content compared to the old sega system. In fact the Master System had it's own extensive library enough to practically deem it as a new platform altogether compared to what Sony or Microsoft is doing with mid gen upgrades ... (Master System specific games outnumbered the SG-1000 games!) 

Backwards compatibility doesn't change the fact that the new system has a totally different identity compared to the old system. Just like how nobody would argue that the PS3 is a mid gen upgrade in comparison to PS2 because it features backwards compatibility ... 

I'm well aware of overlaps in terms of release cycle but there is an algorithmic way to group these platforms altogether but my point is that it ISN'T unprecedented for console manufacturers to release another new platform in the same generation ...

I mean, I care about what you think and what you have to say and your giving actual examples but facts override opinions. I've covered in very clear form why the Master System was part of the 4th gen because it was literally called the SG-3000 in Japan, an upgraded console of the SG-2000. That's great that the Master System had specific games for it and a larger library than that of it's counterparts but SG-1000 and SG-2000 were both only in production for 1 year each whereas Master System was in production for over 10 years...

You can say the Master System has a "totally different identity" to the SG-1000/2000 but it's original name was SG-3000 so again, facts.

Can you give some examples - that relate to the Switch's situation - where a console manufacturer released another new platform in the same generation? I'm not saying you don't have one I just can't think of an example.

So you would need to insert a gen because Atari 2600 and 5200 are inside the same gen... and as said by fat PS1-PS4 would be the same system because of naming?

A_C_E said:

DonFerrari said:

What creativity is in not improving the processing power and caling a handheld a console? You don't even aknowledge that what you say Switch brings wasn't already present in most form on PSP or Vita.

And how haven't Microsoft nd Sony didn't bring technological advancement? Well and if you need a new one exclusive tech for this gen would be VR, and if you consider X1 doesn't have it then Scorpio would be 9th gen as well.

Wii is considered 7th gen because it was out at the same time period of X360 and PS3 and at least at first got a try on Multiplat. But some people also call Wii a 6,5 gen and WiiU 7th gen so Switch would be 7,5 to 8th gen so far. And Wii motion system was a technological leap even if not on the graphical side. And even there, a lot of games on PS3 and 360 were subHD even like 530p comparing to Wii 480p games... Now when PS5 comes out it will be 4k versus 720 on Switch on portable and 1080p on deck at most.

Scorpio and PS4Pro is a step in the direction to 2 or 3 years cycle if we use these odds definition people try here to decide 9th gen started because Nintendo saw WiiU was a failure. But if we stop believing that 3DS won't be continued by another HH and that Switch will be the sucessor then Switch is more the 5th or 6th gen HH and not 9th gen console.

What Switch brings is a new primary way of gaming on their system, not just a simple added on function that only 0.5% of the consumer base use. It's not just creativity that counts it's the implementation of creativity as well as implementation of technology to garner one's vision, whatever one's vision may be. Sony's PSVita function with the PS3/PS4 is the same idea as the Switch but it's the implementation of said technology that vastly separates the two. I'm not saying that creativity is the only reason why a new gen starts but it seems to be how your understanding of my view is. Im simply pointing out that creativity can replace power to a point that breathes new ways of gaming and can be sold as such, hence why Nintendo is releasing the Switch with a new primary way of playing their games. Hence why Nintendo is kicking off the 9th generation.

The Wii launched with 14 year old technology in its Wii Motion Sensor and was barely twice the power of GC, yeah, what a technical leap! The Wii U to Switch on the other hand will be a bigger power gap than GC to Wii seeing as how the rumoured specs put the Switch to being much more powerful than Wii U.

Nope it isn't.

NVidia Shield, the chinese HH, PSVita/PSP is making the same... and as I said, unless you show anything done on Switch that is totally impossible in any 8th gen platform then maybe we can concede, but no technology in Switch so far is allowing new different games.