Digital Foundry: Scorpio Spec leak - "might suggest console isn't the "true" 4k console as MS claimed"

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Ruler said:
So having no ESRAM means probably:
- It will be harder for developers to program for both Scorpio and the original Xbox One unlike with PS4 hardware
- The games on scorpio wont nativity run better unless they are patched

It's all abstracted anyway.

EricHiggin said:

If Scorpio is just a Pro with a slightly better GPU then its not going to sell very well.

If this has been XB's plan the whole time, then they should have just launched Scorpio at the same time as Pro and used the RX480 GPU at 5.5Tflops. Put it in an X1S sized box with external power brick, or X1 sized box with internal power supply. That would have gotten better sales as it would have gone head to head with Pro and would have had a clear hardware advantage. Launching a year later than Pro for 0.5 more Tflops (6) is just a really dumb idea.

This makes me think whether or not the GPU is Polaris with more CU's or a gimped version of Vega, odds are Scorpio is using a Ryzen CPU in some shape or form. This is probably the main reason for XB to wait an entire year to compete with Pro.

It could also be neither Polaris or Vega, but a semi-custom design like what Sony opted for.
We know it has adopted a couple of technologies that debuted in Tonga and thus is in Vega and Polaris.

Had my doubts about Zen since Scorpio was announced.

With that said, if it's using a semi-custom Vega, then it should be able to do more work than the raw flop numbers imply.

Captain_Yuri said:

The reason is if we look at benchmarks for a 480 (Scorpio's GPU might be more powerful with higher vram, CUs and Memory Bandwidth

We *really* need Vega to drop with some decent benchmarks and architectural analysis.

shikamaru317 said:

-Still no mention of what kind of CPU Scorpio is using, though Microsoft recommends using framerate upscaling if the CPU is creating a bottleneck (framerate upscaling means that GPU bound elements run at 60 fps and CPU bound elements run at 30 fps interpolated to 60 fps), which suggets that Scorpio isn't using the latest AMD Zen CPU cores, in spite of AMD hinting that Scorpio does use Zen at CES.

What about the Vega connection though? Zen will also have APU's which will be Vega powered, so the hint may have been towards Vega and not Zen at CES.