potato_hamster said:
zorg1000 said:
Yes, many of them are.
Expensive accessories is a single point.
Questionable online service is a single point.
Some of the points dont even apply, they either werent unexpected or arent really a negative aspect. Like no 3D Mario at launch, sure a few rumors and people thought it was going to make launch but it was in no way a big shock that its not.
1-2 Switch should not be that unexpected, Nintendo is known to release mini game compilations at or around launch to show of their systems unique features, WarioWare, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Nintendo Land are a few examples.
No pack in title is not that unexpected or necessarily a bad thing. Half of Nintendo's systems released without a pack-in title and PS/XB very rarely launch with a game bundled, thats something they usually do later.
So essentially your list of 14 unlikely and negative points comes down to 2-3.
As for my post about who is developing for what, note that i said CURRENTLY KNOWN GAMES, i said based on the currently known Nintendo IP coming to 3DS & Switch, most are interally developed, big IP for Switch while most are outsourced, smaller IP for 3DS. That is a true statement. Of course it could change if Nintendo starts announcing a bunch of internally developed big IP for 3DS but as of now the games we know about provide a clue (not proof) that Nintendo's big studios & games are on Switch.
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First off, let's clarify one thing. I wasn't stating that all these were negative, or bad things, just things that were unlikely that Nintendo did. Not packing in a game or not launching with Mario aren't necessarily bad things, but most people expected Nintendo to do both of these at launch. That was my main point in that list.
So because Nintendo some of these you can encompass with vague wording, it doesn't mean that these were unexpected decisions? Nintendo decided to make many of their accessories overpriced . All of those accesories prices were reasonable decisions Nintendo could have made for those specific products and they chose not to. Notice how I didn't bring up the price of the steering wheel 2-pack? No one is complaining about that because Nintendo decided to price those reasonably. If I mentioned Nintendo accessories being overpriced as one larger point, that would be inaccurate because not all of them are.
Questionable online service is also not a single point, when that point also encompasses many terrible decisions Nintendo made. "Questionable online service" doesn't even accurately describe the clusterfuck of unexpectedly bad decisions Nintendo has made about its online services for the switch. They made multiple unexpected decisions regarding even specific aspects of the Nintnedo Switch
How is the fuck was 1-2 Switch expected? It's a VIDEO GAME that doesn't use VIDEO! You virtually milk cows for fuck's sake. That game is indefensible. Period.
As for what's being developed internally and externally, how much internal focus has ever been on handheld games vs internal focus on home console games. The shift your seeing may be slight, or it just could be because we don't what the announced games are. The fact that they just announced a 3DS exclusive Fire Emblem might point to this not being as substantial as you think.
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But like I said, 3D Mario not being a launch is not that surprising, we havent had a new 3D Mario at launch in 20 years, DS had an updated port but even that was 12 years ago. Some thought it would be there but it was far from most people.
Yes accessory prices is one single point. If 7 out of 8 accessories are considered overpriced than it can be lumped into a single point. Its like saying you dont like Wii because it had too much shovelware, that is one reason, listing 100 shovelware games does not make it 100 seperate reasons.
Havent people been complaining about Nintendo being backwards in terms of online since the Gamecube? That continued on Wii & Wii U so i dont see how its all of a sudden a huge shock that Switch has a weird online setup. Im not defending their online choices, paid online is the biggest complaint i have about the system but it didnt come as a big surprise.
A ton of people were expecting some sort of casual, minigame compilation to demonstrate the system just like Wii & Wii U had. 1-2 Switch is exactly that, the specifics of the game way be surprising but the core concept of it was very much expected.
3DS recieved alot of support from their internal developers & subsidiaries.
2011-Nintendogs, Steel Diver, Mario Kart 7 & Mario 3D Land.
2012-New Super Mario 2, Kid Icarus (not sure if team Sora was a subsidiary), Paper Mario, Animal Crossing.
2013-Fire Emblem, Tomodachi Life, Pokemon X/Y, Zelda: Link Between Worlds, Mario Party.
2014-Kirby Triple Deluxe, Smash Bros 3DS, Pokemon OR/AS
2015-Codename STEAM, AC: Happy Home Designer, Fire Emblem Fates, Rhythm Heaven
2016-Kirby Planet Robobot, Mario Party, Pokemon Sun/Moon, Mario Maker 3DS, Miitopia
3DS recieved about 4 internal/subsidiary games each year not including eShop only titles, in which case that number goes up to 5-6.
