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irstupid on 16 January 2017
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Soundwave said:
irstupid said:

And I do not consider grandmas and soccer moms or whatever other group you want ot lump into that as casuals. They non gamers that were lured by some neat toy.

I'm talking about the millions of casual gamers who own a PS3/4 or 360/One. There are millions of them. Majority of every userbase is casuals. THis has nothign to do with soccer moms or grandmas.

That's just semantics. 

I think you know full well when people say "casual" on a message board like this they mean grandmas/soccer moms/"I don't like a game unless I can win in 5 minutes" types of people that if they are playing anything today it's largely smartphone apps. 

That is bull and you know it. Beyond some Wii Sports type of game, there is a zero percent chance anyoen is considering a grandma or soccer mom playing.

Now bring up Just Dance or something and you may have an argument for a group of teenage girls who don't game playing that. But leave that grandma/soccer mom crap at home. Casual term was around long before the Wii came to be. What were those soccer mom/grandmas playing back then? Oh that's right, NOTHING? Just like they are playing now. NOTHIGN. So leave them in their nursing homes and mini vans where they belong and out of our conversations.