Intrinsic said:
SmileyAja said:
If you're talking about the Eurogamer article, I'll quote this (from the article itself);
"There's an additional wrinkle to the story too, albeit one we should treat with caution as it is single-source in nature with a lot of additional speculation on our part. This relates to the idea that the Tegra X1 in the NX development hardware is apparently actively cooled, with audible fan noise. With that in mind, we can't help but wonder whether X1 is the final hardware we'll see in the NX. Could it actually be a placeholder for Tegra X2?"
"While we're confident that our reporting on Switch's clock-speeds is accurate, all of the questions we have concerning the leaked spec remain unanswered.... Performance at lower clocks could be boosted by a larger GPU (ie more CUDA cores), but this seems unlikely - even if Switch is using newer 16nm technology, actual transistor density isn't that different to Tegra X1's 20nm process - it's the FinFET '3D' transistors that make the difference. A larger GPU would result in a more expensive chip too, with only limited performance gains. And if Switch is using a more modern 16nm Tegra chip, we would expect Nintendo to follow Nvidia's lead in how the new process is utilised. However, the Tegra X2 features the same CUDA core count and apparently boosts GPU clocks by 50 per cent, the opposite direction taken by Nintendo."
They themselves question if the X1 is being used, and if they were to use the Venture Beat article as an example of this statement that would make less sense, since all the points they bring up about Maxwell being more efficent and cheaper than Pascal in the (Venture Beat) article are false. Die shrinking it makes no sense, since they could base the chip off the P1 and get better performance for cheaper and it will even decrease in price as time goes on. Besides we don't know how custom this chip is, it could be minor tweaks to a pre-existing chip or tailor made for the Switch. It's too early to jump the gun on saying that it's a rip-off based on the hardware which we don't know anything about.
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Me even saying that its based on a die shrink is even being generous. But get ths, Nvidias own sheild Tv 2 just recently released is also still based on the tegra X1 chip. So even Nvidia isn't using the pascal variant of the still unused tegra X2 chip.
Chances are, ninty is probably using the xame X1 but on a smaller fab process with slight modifications here and there.
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First of all no Tegra X2 exists, while Xavier and the P1 to a lesser extent are touted for cars, the X1 was a safe bet for the use case. Not to mention it's the same old Shield with a new controller and remote, and a software update. The only change on the console is the removal of the SD card slot.
Again, for Nintendo even now and down the line Pascal is more economically viable and far better suited for their use case, and the Foxconn leak (which got everything right except 4G which was actually part of the unreleased dev kit and 1080p screen which he based off the fact that it wasn't upscaling to 1080p as the system was being benchmarked docked and he went off this, just like he speculated about the A73 cores because of the ARM_v8 architecture which doesn't imply A73s) also says Pascal. Game Informer also says Pascal even though that was 99.9 % definetly not insider info. Pascal is better and cheaper for both Nintendo and nVidia in every way.
