Who is the most money grubbing console maker in the industry?

[naruball]

Acevil said:

naruball said:

The 3g version costing $299 is completely irrelevant and you bringing it up shows how weak your point is. That was a luxury product for the few people that wanted it. If Sony makes a gold ps4 controller and charges x amount for it, you wouldn't bring it up in a discussion because it would be just as irrelevant.

The device could have used SD cards and the 3rd party developers would have had no reason to make games for it after the fiasco with psp getting hacked and no one buying games for it at the end of its life. Not even superb games like God of War: Ghost of Sparta. They had to combat piracy somehow and that was one of the ways to convince developers that they had nothing to fear. The prices were high. I mentioned that already. But saying that "they could have easily used SD card" is naive at best. 

Never said that there were "launch bundle for 249.99 that came with memory". Don't know where you read that. There were, however, bundles with a game and a memory card for more than 249.99 but less than bought seperately. It's usually how bundles work.

As for this, "don't take offense because I picked one of your favorites and showcased it". I'm one of the few members here who give credit when I believe they deserve it. I have both praised and critised countless times all three companies in various occasions. So, please keep your assumptions to yourself.

I am talking about launch, I am not talking any other point with my point that companies even sony can do money grubbing, doesn't matter to me if someone fixes themselves later, same with Nintendo, because Nintendo could reduce the price of everything months after, wouldn't change the fact they were money grubbing at that point. I can highlight different things sony has done that seen as money grubbing behaviour, ranging from PS3 Launch and how they went about it or the fact Sony was the first companies to introduce Online Pass with Socom 3 Fireteam Bravo 3. They also did good, if you truthfully want me to list that aswell. 

Again if you want me to do all three I can as well, since I do find good and huge faults in all three, and at the end of the day, they all want to make Money. 

Also I will accept the last paragraph, and will apologize, only because I do believe you in that. I am sorry for stepping out of line with that. 

Yes, I'm talking about launch, too. I bought a launch bundle that had Rayman Origins, an 8gb memory card and, of course, the psvita.

The ps3 launch was a disaster and a terrible idea, but far from money grabbing considering that Sony lost 200 USD on each console sold.

I don't see online passes as money grabbing, because I believe that the second hand market hurt too many games and people look at the exceptions and not at the whole picture when they cite games selling well despite the second hand market. Having said that, I fully undertand how someone could see it that way so I'm not gonna argue against it. 

Never said I think you're too harsh on Sony or even accused you of anything. I try to avoid that. I have no doubt that you, too, have praised and critised all three companies. I specifically disagreed with you on the points that I argued against. Nothing more.

Apology accepted.