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DanneSandin said:
Airaku said:

 Do you know what their replacements are? Could we be getting something new and significantly better?

If that's the case, why haven't we heard anything about this? I'm only going by what they revealed the other day, some were good and some were bad.


 I don't think many people "expected" this. Do we know what the new service is? I'm guessing it's been revamped and DeNA had a hand in this.

We don't know the full extent of it yet, but from what we're hearing right now, it's sounding like it'll be pretty bad.

Again how do we know this bad? How do we know that is the way it's going to work. Did you try it out, have you seen a demonstration? You're assuming things again.

How do we know this is bad? First of all, YOU NEED A SECOND DEVICE TO VOICE CHAT AND INVITE PEOPLE TO PLAY WITH YOU. That's pretty bad, that's features that the Switch is MISSING, something the console cannot do, something that the competition is doing, is doing pretty well, and has been doing for quite some time. That's like having a modern day phone which cannot send text messages, you need another phone to do that. It's on the same level of stupidity. It's just bad design. And it's not like Nintendo is giving you great value for this service; you get to play a 20-30 year old game for ONE month. unlike the competition which is giving you 6 games EVERY month you'll get to enjoy FOREVER, as long as you continue to pay for that service. Oh, we might get discounts on games as well if we pay for this service, but Steam is also offering great discounts for their members, without having to pay for the privilige of getting the discounts. This all means that Nintendo's online service is looking pretty damn bad right now. And this is without assuming anything at all. This is coming from Nintendo directly. That's ALL the information we have of this service right now. And it's all bad.

 

We have a brand new President of Nintendo and people are assuming and expecting that he's going to run everything Iwata did in the past 10 year. Un-fucking-believable. Iwata DID NOT run things like Yamauchi did. Give Kimishima a chance and wipe your mind clear from everything you think you knew. This is a new era of Nintendo.

Also it's confirmed more things will be revealed in the coming weeks. The Switch was delayed so it would launch with a lot of games and one of their biggest launch line ups to date. Those were Kimishima's words and I doubt 4 or 5 games qualifies as a huge launch line up.

I'm hoping Nintendo can justify all my cons, but with the information we have right now, I'm gonna stick with my opinions. If Nintendo really makes a great case for all the cons, I'll be happy to change my mind.

Again it's too early to say. Nintendo haven't even revealed their online plans yet and I think we're going to see all of that at E3. I'm actually not worried about it at all and I think that there's going to be some changed minds when things are revealed. Nintendo should have kept their mouths shut and waited until they fully revealed the service with all it's features. This is like when Iwata announced the "NX" and everyone started assuming shit before a single detail was announced. Feel free to stick with your opinion but there is no substantial information to go on, no real facts. Just speculation over a few tidbits and some rumors and speculation which could end up looking pretty good. I'm just really confused because I had a feeling we would be paying for online this time around. I even stated this a fair few days prior to the event, but I thought online gameplay would be free.... I'm wondering if Nintendo is going to have two different tiers for their online service. A Cheap one that covers the basic functions and is likely priced cheaper than the competition and then a more expensive premium service that could be something like $80-100 a year. Maybe more depending on overhead costs and how much the serves cost to run. If it works as speculated it won't be for everyone but it will have a crowd and a market that it'll attract. Regardless give it time. If things don't work out by E3 and you still don't like it, then by all means. Complain.