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Muffin31190 on 12 January 2017
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Soundwave said:
Neodegenerate said:

It is much more than that one line.  It is your refusal to look at anything aside from the XB1S success as a reason why PS would be down.  It is your refusal to look at the previous year as part of the reason why something might be down or up.  It is your hard-nosed stance that me saying things like this is discounting the XB1S's success as opposed to what it actually is: entering further evidence and reason into the discussion.

So what? I'm not obligated to agree with you on every point. 

I feel XBox One S is indeed the no.1 reason the PS4 is down YoY, MS is far, far more competetive this year. In fact I'll go further and say it's borderline shocking the XBox One is even competetive this year, this should have been a *rout* for Sony, we had heard for months that XBox was going to get destroyed in November/December by many people. 

If you don't agree with MS having any impact on Sony sales, fine, but you don't ge to tell people that they can only think one way. I'm not "refusing" anything, I just don't agree with your point.

By who exactly?

No major Gaming orginizations thought this, be it Gaming news or people in forums. The PS4 didnt have the greatest line up and it still won, just saying that games tend to sell the systems, and it still didnt help the xbox win.