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Onimusha12 on 01 June 2008
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cwbys21 said:
Onimusha12 said:
Riachu said:
Onimusha12 said:
The RPG genre is pretty much dead, it doesn't fit in the new world order of HD gaming. It began its decline last generation and is being suffocated even more so by the westernization of the HD consoles.

I suppose the DS and PSP are the only consoles to feature any viable RPGs.
You will probably be proven wrong when other JRPGs like FFXIII and WKC come out. The genre is not dead. Look at LO's sales. People though that game was going to bomb here but it didn't. A JRPG selling well is just a matter of decent marketing and good buzz.

 


FF will always be the exception to the rule and while it remains a viable franchise, there is no arguing its decline in quality. If you can only pull up two games to claim a genre isn't dead then you've just made my argument for me. RPGs are not what they used to be and the market is making sure it stays that way. In fact they've only been able to survive by going to the handhelds.


 I love it when people state opinion as fact.  I've played a little bit of every Final Fantasy and I see no "decline."  The only decline there could be is if they tried to keep everything exactly the same as it was 10 years ago or 20 years ago.


Hrmmm... Opinion eh? Square-Enix has lost so much talent that an entire studio has been able to form from the defecters, Mystwalker. Not to mention the copious amounts of individuals who have left Square-Enix to work for other companies like Nintendo who has recently acquire even the director of FFXII who left Square-Enix after his dissapointment with FFXII.

They've lost all desire to explore any unique or creative artistic direction in their mainstay franchises. They've lost Nobuo Uematsu and Yoshitaka Amano whose music and concept Art were Final Fantasy definitively. All the main characters in every game are now just variant clones of Tidus and Yuna from FFX. Instead of exploring new game designs they're simply refining pre-existing ones making lazier and lazier game models. I mean first a Final Fantasy )(FFXI) as an MMORPG then FFXII using an even more simplified MMO battle system to succeed it? They've literally found a way to make the gameplay something that you now sit through as well like watching a cut scene.

The ship is sinking and the beginning of such things as direct sequels (FFX 2) and the pilleging of FF7's corpse should've been the first clue. Final Fantasy games are no longer the experience they used to be, they're just games now that people, like yourself, convince yourselves are still good because academically they're technically not flawed or broken and have plenty of polish to spare. What you are missing though is the gaping void of artistic talent and creativity in Square Enix's ranks which is now reflected starkly in their games. I don't think anyone would call them terrible games but make no mistake they are shadows of their former glory.

In addition if you're only argument is the hypothetical that an "opinion" can't go hand in hand with a fact, then you paint yourself quite convincingly as the well-wisher who simply can't accept one of the greatest bastions of gaming is now just another hack developer and a shell of its former glory.