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thismeintiel on 07 January 2017
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hudsoniscool said:
thismeintiel said:

But you also have to think about price. Of course, MS has played both sides of that, as well. Earlier on they were talking about a premium product for a premium price, basically suggesting this thing will be $499-$599, maybe more. More recently, they have been talking about it not costing as much as people think. I'm wondering if they have looked at the performance of the Pro, seeing that mid-gen upgrades are a little more niche than they thought, and have scaled things back to keep price down. I don't think the Scorpio is going to be as decked out as people think.  Maybe a slightly upgraded CPU architecture, maintain the 8gb of RAM, just a better type, and of course, a better GPU.  I see the price being $449-$499, the latter being if they do use a Vega GPU.

Still, at that price, as far as sales go, it's going to make little difference. First of all, the Scorpio is only going to affect things in a handful of countries, namely US, UK, and possibly AU.  Xbox just isn't the WW brand PS is.  Secondly, people have already shown they are still happy with their PS4s until the PS5 comes out, with Pro being a more niche product. Now, that might change this year when Sony drops the Pro to $299-$349, but I'm sure a $199 Slim will still sell more. It's possible Xbox gamers will turn out to be more likely to upgrade, but it won't be at any significant margin. And if Sony does decide to do a full $100 cut of the Pro this year, the Scorpio doesn't have a prayer. That will probably be a $150-$200 price advantage. Finally,...

The Scorpio is just too late to change anything. We started getting rumors about the PS4 and XBO in early 2012. If the same thing happens this time, we should be getting them early 2018, only a few months after the Scorpio launches. That can't be good for sales. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony let out some controlled leaks. And the Scorpio may only be getting a Vega GPU to keep costs down, but after 2 years, I'm sure costs will be down for Sony to make a damn good system with Vega and Ryzen for $399, plus any advancements 2 years and Sony's teams can bring.

Pro is a 8th gen console. Scorpio is a hybrid 8th/9th gen console. If Sony leaks info about ps5 so what. Microsoft will do the same thing the following yr. this is assuming a 2019 ps5 and 2020 Xbox. Which could happen but we don't know. In 2019 Scorpio will be around 300$ and play the same games as ps5. Then if Xbox launches a yr later it will be more powerful than ps5. 

Kinda doubt it'll be a hybrid console.  You honestly think MS is going to have it where you can plop one disc into either a Scorpio or XB2 and play on both systems, only with upgraded graphics?  Highly doubt that.  They may have said that to cause a stir, but once they realize Nintendo and Sony aren't down for that, though more importantly devs and pubs, AND that they would be losing money on people who double dip for remakes/upgrades, they'll abandon it real quick.  Nah, it'll be just like any other gen.  We'll get cross-gen games and maybe devs/pubs who will offer free or at low cost upgrades to their games, but tey will still be different games on different discs. 

I doubt MS revealing a XB2, even if it is slightly more powerful than a PS5, will really hurt the WW appeal of the next PS5.  Especially if it is B/C with the highly successful PS4, while still launching for just $399.  Of course, if the Scorpio flounders out the gate, a XB2 will become farther from a certainty.