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DrDoomz on 05 January 2017
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Soundwave said:
DrDoomz said:

The DNC is the one using racial tensions most effectively (tho the RNC is not guilt free either). Not Russia. The UK separated from Europe on its own. You have proof of relevant Russian influence? They invaded Crimea (w/c is one reason I dislike Putin, a lot) w/c is perhaps the only thing that Russia did even remotely close to what the book is saying. And I'm thinking the US has as much interest in making the EU its puppet as Russia, so that's a non-point.

Put down the hat, buddy. And don't strawman what I said. I'm not saying Russia is your friend. I'm saying that it is silly to think anyone is, and we should employ healthy suspicion/skepticism with everyone's intentions but let's not go overboard villifying one group just because they wanted to getTrump elected (btw, my wife voted HRC and I strongly supported her even tho I couldn't vote as I am not a citizen yet).

You are welcome to be dubious. But best be dubious with everyone if you think that interests that go against the US = reason for doubt. Don't use double standards.

You also shouldn't confuse the Scarecrow with the Joker. One is far more dangerous. 

Countries typically try to get in good with US politicans for gain on a domestic/local scale ie: Saudi Arabia and Israel. Saudi Arabia has a population smaller than Canada, their geopolitical ambitions in the broader sense are realtively small potatoes. They basically want a nice price for oil and want to pay off politicans on both sides that are favorable to that. 

Russia will always be a big player globally, for a number of reasons, their size, their history, the number of global regions they border, etc. 

There is only one country as far as I can tell that is actively trying to sabotage/influence US elections and have a global agenda. That makes one different from the others. Very different. You can try and hand wave that away but that doesn't change the reality of it. 

As shouldn't you. I find the Saudis much worse than Russia tbh. Thus I see your joker/scarecrow analogy quite the opposite as you do. There is something about religion that brings the worst in people. The only thing Russia has over SA is that Russia is much bigger/more powerful. So you might see them as a more viable short term threat. I also see that their idealogical endgame is much much worse for the world (Sharia Law) than what Russia has in store. They just don't have the power. At least not yet.

Hell, if you wanna talk about dangerous required reading that hint at world domination, check theirs out.

I don't hand wave anything, actually, my point is that you are actually the one doing the hand waving. There are plenty of threats out there. Why focus on one? Maybe you're more worried because Russia may become a viable threat to American dominance? Well, I don't see complete dominance as a good thing. Having someone in close second nipping at its heels can keep America in check, and that is a good thing IMO.

Personally, I know that there is little I can do to affect the geopolitics of the world and I find worrying snd fearmongering to be a waste of time.