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RolStoppable said:
RJ_Sizzle said:

I don't know. There's a reason they've been hiding some of the figures they have when they were more transparent last gen and gone stright to figures like MAUs and Zombies killed. And to be honest, going from $299 to $199 in six months isn't really that less drastic than going from $499 to $199 in three years when you look at things parallel. There's a reason that MS is hyping the Scorpio early. It's in line with the MS business strategy of kicking starting a new gen in 4 years when something isn't working out like it should. Scorpio seems less like an iterative console and more like a do over of what happened this gen.

I think the Scorpio will be a success, but I think people should be prepared for them to break away from the prior console to do it. We'll see if "no gamer left behind" holds up if Scorpio takes off.

Okay... the point of contention we had was whether or not the Xbox One would pile up losses in the same ballpark as the original Xbox. My stance hasn't been that the Xbox One is successful.

And I'm just saying the signs are there that MS isn't quite happy with their situation as far as the Xbox One went based on moves made. Meaning that this system isn't pulling in the revenue it should. To be fair, this isn't unique to MS. Sony lost 3.5 billion on the PS3 last gen. A hole they could never quite fill even with the slim revision. They were talking massive losses trying to sell the console at a marketable price that people still scoffed at, even though they were taking a 200 dollar hit on the console. 

Chances are, if a console maker REALLY wants to play catch up, chances are it's hitting them in the books pretty hard.