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RolStoppable said:
RJ_Sizzle said:

That could be true, but is there a figure on how many actual gold subscribers there are at this point? You don't don't need one for PC. Plus, MS wasn't this aggressive at getting the original box in homes in its first iteration. It all depends on what's being balanced out here. Does the Live ecosystem make up for the major deals? I know MS would like to be in a position to have the console be profitable without having to work against it by undercutting.

Nobody needs exact numbers of subscribers when it is a foregone conclusion that the amount is easily multiple times higher than during the era of the original Xbox.

Microsoft was more aggressive back then, hence why they piled up such huge losses. They had hardly any leeway to cut hardware prices, but did it anyway. In America they cut the price from $299 to $199 within six months of launch, in Europe they went from €479 at launch to €299 three weeks later. Both were permanent price drops.

I don't know. There's a reason they've been hiding some of the figures they have when they were more transparent last gen and gone stright to figures like MAUs and Zombies killed. And to be honest, going from $299 to $199 in six months isn't really that less drastic than going from $499 to $199 in three years when you look at things parallel. There's a reason that MS is hyping the Scorpio early. It's in line with the MS business strategy of kicking starting a new gen in 4 years when something isn't working out like it should. Scorpio seems less like an iterative console and more like a do over of what happened this gen.

I think the Scorpio will be a success, but I think people should be prepared for them to break away from the prior console to do it. We'll see if "no gamer left behind" holds up if Scorpio takes off.