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Soundwave said:
DrDoomz said:

You have gone tinfoil hate mode here buddy. I don't really think Putin have outlined his plans for US destablization from a book that has its content viewable in wiki. The world isn't as simple as that. 

And plenty of books are required reading. Doesn't mean it is their handbook outlining their plans for future world domination. They're not morons.

Their actions speak for themselves, they are very plainly doing the things here, beyond that Americans are oblivious to how Russia behaves with interfering in elections of Eastern European countries too. All the stuff they are alleged to have done in this election is stuff they already do in their playbook, and it's all for a reason.

This isn't tin foil hat ... they are actively doing this stuff. 

I'd like to have a peaceful relationship with all countries, but one can't help but be dubious of Russia's actual intentions. I would not be surprised if Putin fashions himself as a new empire kind of Russian emperor/tsar. Why not?

If you think they are just doing this as a joke, and there's no end game here and nothing to worry about at all, well lets hope you're right. But I think you're wrong.

The DNC is the one using racial tensions most effectively (tho the RNC is not guilt free either). Not Russia. The UK separated from Europe on its own. You have proof of relevant Russian influence? They invaded Crimea (w/c is one reason I dislike Putin, a lot) w/c is perhaps the only thing that Russia did even remotely close to what the book is saying. And I'm thinking the US has as much interest in making the EU its puppet (if they only could) as Russia, so that's a non-point.

Put down the hat, buddy. And don't strawman what I said. I'm not saying Russia is your friend. I'm saying that it is silly to think anyone is, and we should employ healthy suspicion/skepticism with everyone's intentions but let's not go overboard villifying one group just because they wanted to get Trump elected (btw, my wife voted HRC and I strongly supported her even tho I couldn't vote as I am not a citizen yet).

You are welcome to be dubious. But best be dubious with everyone if you think that interests that go against the US = reason for doubt. Don't use double standards.