FBI Released Proof of Russian DNC Hacking - US expels 35 Russian diplomats & Sanctioned Two Compounds

[DrDoomz]

Soundwave said:

DrDoomz said:

I read the report. Not entirely convinced this was Russian intelligence tbh. It was mostly circumstantial evidence.

How is donation not active "interjection"? Just because we've never heard of something, doesn't mean they didn't try. Secrecy is the whole point of espionage. The US meddles in foreign policy/governments/elections all the time. Is it only bad when someone else does it to you? And there are many approaches to espionage. W/c is mostly done to exploit weaknesses. Which takes us back to my original point: the hacks exposed a vulnerability in the parties. It is now up to them to protect themselves from such attacks. It does not excuse those that engage in espionage when caught, however.

I notice a bit of arrogance, with a touch of hypocrisy, tho.

"We can do it to others, but don't dare do it to us!!"

The Saudis, as ass backwards as some of their domestic policy might be, don't really have any active interest in destablizing the United States as whole.

The Russians do. That to begin with is a fairly large difference. 

They have written textbooks that state they want the United States to collapse upon itself, UK to alienate itself from Europe, and wish to see the "Finlandization" of Europe, if you're not familiar with that term is a Cold War term when Russia didn't directly invade Finland but basically had so much influence over Finland that it was a puppet state in effect. 

Does it matter what a foreign government's interests are? Influence is influence. They tend to be selfish and they are seldom if ever in the interests of the parties being influenced. Let's not split hairs here.

Again, destablization of governments one doesn't like is practically US MO. You practically own the rights to it. Also, I doubt Russia would wants to completely destabilize the US as the world's economy is so tied to it. Maybe in the long-long term. Just because they might want something, doesn't mean they think it's a good idea.

And you're still missing my point...