FBI Released Proof of Russian DNC Hacking - US expels 35 Russian diplomats & Sanctioned Two Compounds

[DrDoomz]

Soundwave said:

DrDoomz said:

That's not what I said.

What I said is that since we know that media/special interests/foreign powers/etc will always want to try and influence US elections (this should not be surprising to anybody, seriously. I mean really. It would be far more surprising if they DIDNT try.) and the recent hacks exposed vulnerabilities, then it falls onto the political parties to make sure they are not vulnerable to such influence.

It does not excuse the said groups from their attempts at espionage. And prosecution/retaliation (once irrefutable proof is found) is warranted. The same way it does not excuse the US when it does shady espionage activities. But espionage is a reality in our world. Let's not pretend it is not.

When is the last time a foreign government *actively* interjected themselves into a US election by doing things like trying to actively doing things like hacking into computers to favor one candidate over another? 

The Saudis or Chinese or whoever may donate to a favorable candidate (though often they just donate to both sides), but this is the first time I can recall an American election having active involvement from a foreign government, one which is lets not kid ourselves, hostile to the United States.

Even at the height of the Cold War, Russia would not have dared then to try to interfere with an American election. 

I read the report. Not entirely convinced this was Russian intelligence tbh. It was mostly circumstantial evidence.

How is donation not active "interjection"? Just because we've never heard of something, doesn't mean they didn't try. Secrecy is the whole point of espionage. The US meddles in foreign policy/governments/elections all the time. Is it only bad when someone else does it to you? And there are many approaches to espionage. W/c is mostly done to exploit weaknesses. Which takes us back to my original point: the hacks exposed a vulnerability in the parties. It is now up to them to protect themselves from such attacks. It does not excuse those that engage in espionage when caught, however.

I notice a bit of arrogance, with a touch of hypocrisy, tho.

"We can do it to others, but don't dare do it to us!!"